Обсуждение пользователя:Srnec

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Почему вы отменяете улучшения? У вас есть какие-либо предметные знания по Буркина-Фасо? — Предыдущий неподписанный комментарий добавлен 65sugg ( обсуждение • вклад ) 18:39, 5 июля 2022 (UTC) [ ответить ]

@65sugg: Я не отменял никаких улучшений. Если вы хотите изменить название статьи, см. процесс на WP:RM . — Srnec (обсуждение) 13:31, 12 июля 2022 (UTC) [ ответить ]

Вы отменили улучшения, выходящие за рамки изменения имени. Я удалил много ошибочных и неподтвержденных утверждений, а также обновил для единообразия терминологии и правописания. 65sugg ( обсуждение ) 15:53, 12 июля 2022 (UTC) [ ответить ]

Я также уже сделал правильный ход, используя процесс, который вы вернули.

Переместить журнал

18:36, 31 мая 2022 г. 65sugg talk contribs переместил страницу Список правителей Wogodogo в Список правителей Mogho Naabas (1. Wogodogo больше не используется, если что, то это должен быть Ouagadougou, 2. В настоящее время Mogho Naaba не имеет политической власти и служит только как традиционный правитель, фактическими правителями Уагадугу являются мэры и т. д. 3. Этот список на самом деле является списком тех, кто носил титул «Mogho Naaba», который на самом деле существовал еще до существования Уагадугу) (вернуть) 65sugg ( talk ) 15:58, 12 июля 2022 г. (UTC) [ ответить ]

Герцогство Сорренто Я пытаюсь лучше оформить статью, добавить более свежие источники в дополнение к уже существующим. Каждая фраза будет хорошо процитирована и задокументирована. Подождите, пока я закончу статью. -- Peter39c ( обсуждение ) 19:47, 14 января 2022 (UTC) Вы предпочитаете, чтобы я мог использовать черновик, пока я заканчиваю статью. -- Peter39c ( обсуждение ) 19:51, 14 января 2022 (UTC) [ ответить ]

Друг, я сбит с толку изменениями в устранении неоднозначности Джека Линдси (Писатель), которые стали перенаправлением с Джека Линдси (Писатель) обратно на Джека Линдси; тот же человек. Пожалуйста, объясните. ( Сэр Джеральд Редактирует ( обсуждение ) 02:04, 14 декабря 2019 (UTC)) [ ответить ]

Почему вы удаляете мое издание? アステール王子 ( обсуждение ) 03:16, 3 марта 2018 г. (UTC) [ ответить ]

Кто сказал, что она знаменита тем, что является чисто женской линией предка королевы Виктории? Это не примечательный факт о ней. Или у вас есть источник, который говорит, что это так? Srnec (обсуждение) 03:24, 3 марта 2018 (UTC) [ ответить ]

Извините, «знаменитый» — не совсем подходящее выражение, но она — «чисто» женский предок всех этих громких имен: королевы Виктории, Вильгельма II, Эдуарда VII, Филиппа, герцога Эдинбургского, последней королевы-консорта Александры и последнего наследного принца Алексея Российской империи, Виктории Евгении, королевы-консорта Испании, Эрнеста Людвига Гессенского и Рейнского. Я думаю, что это очень важный факт о ней и истории. アステール王子 ( talk ) 04:01, 3 марта 2018 (UTC) [ ответить ]

Но то, что вы считаете важным фактом, не обязательно является тем, что Википедия представляет как важный факт. Почему прямое происхождение по женской линии вообще имеет какое-либо значение? Кто-нибудь из авторов говорит, что это так? Кто-нибудь из авторов устанавливает связь Гарсенда–Виктория? Нам нужны надежные источники , а не ваши собственные исследования . — Srnec (обсуждение) 05:34, 3 марта 2018 (UTC) [ ответить ]

ОК, я понял. Извини. アステール王子 ( обсуждение ) 03:32, 4 марта 2018 г. (UTC) [ ответить ]

Ваш информационный бюллетень по военной истории Новости проекта: От редакции; награды и почести; результаты конкурса Статьи: Новинки прошлого месяца и первоклассный контент Рецензия на книгу: Hawkeye7 рассматривает произведение Дэниела Эллсберга Комментарий: TomStar81 о пандемии гриппа 1918 года Хронология: Этот месяц Первой мировой войны

Всем доброго дня, пожалуйста, имейте в виду, что в течение апреля 2018 года проект «Википедия по военной истории» проводит ежегодную акцию по ликвидации отставания. Она будет сосредоточена на нескольких ключевых областях:

• маркировка и оценка статей, которые попадают в сферу проекта
• добавление или улучшение перечисленных ресурсов на страницах целевой группы Milhist
• обновление шаблона открытых задач на страницах целевых групп Milhist
• создание статей, которые указаны как «запрошенные» в различных списках отсутствующих статей проекта.

Как и в прошлых кампаниях Milhist, за работу над статьями в целевых областях начисляются баллы, а в конце выдаются награды Barnstars за различные уровни достижений.

Сбор открыт для всех википедистов, а не только для участников проекта «Военная история», хотя только работа над статьями, которые (в широком смысле) попадают в сферу военной истории, будет считаться приемлемой. В этом году проект «Военная история» хотел бы выразить особое приветствие членам Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red , и мы хотели бы призвать всех участников рассмотреть возможность работы над улучшением нашего освещения женщин в армии. Однако это не единственная цель edit-a-thon, и есть аспекты, которые, как мы надеемся, понравятся практически всем.

Акция стартует в 00:01 UTC 1 апреля и продлится до 23:59 UTC 30 апреля 2018 года. Желающие принять участие могут зарегистрироваться здесь .

Для координаторов Milhist, AustralianRupert и MediaWiki доставка сообщений ( обсуждение ) 10:53, 27 марта 2018 (UTC) [ ответить ]

Автоматизированный процесс обнаружил, что при недавнем редактировании Петра Кастильского, лорда Камероса вы добавили ссылку, указывающую на страницу разрешения неоднозначности Belmez (проверьте для подтверждения | исправить с помощью решателя Dab).

( Инструкции по отказу .) -- DPL bot ( обсуждение ) 10:36, 2 апреля 2018 (UTC) [ ответить ]

Ваш информационный бюллетень по военной истории Новости проекта: От редакции; награды и почести; результаты конкурса Статьи: Новинки прошлого месяца и первоклассный контент Рецензия на книгу: Nick-D рассматривает бомбардировку Дарвина; последние книги женщин-военных историков Обзорное эссе: Кекоффман о том, как Википедия описывает нацистскую армию Германии Мнение: TomStar81 о Красном Бароне Хронология: Этот месяц Первой мировой войны

Привет, приятель!

Я ответил на ваш комментарий на странице обсуждения «Карломана Баварского». Хотелось бы узнать ваши мысли по этому поводу. Спасибо PrinceofFrancia ( обсуждение ) 02:25, 20 апреля 2018 (UTC) [ ответить ]

«Калфун (Халфун), вероятно, был берберского происхождения». Пожалуйста, проведите исследование роли берберов на Сицилии.

Арабская династия сильно зависела от берберов и имела дело напрямую с берберскими вождями, и они держали их разбросанными в приграничных городах, чтобы избежать восстаний, берберы на Сицилии были мусульманами и находились в союзе с династией. Внутри Палермо жило арабское меньшинство, защищенное солдатами-рабами (сербами-хорватами), берберам не разрешалось собираться так близко к дворцу и торговым центрам. На более слабых поздних этапах существования эмирата местные берберские лорды вели свои собственные войны и порабощали византийских сикулов (культурно греческих христиан). Эти рабы начали появляться в записях через несколько десятилетий после падения Бари (в основном продавались в Северной Африке). Славянский состав на Сицилии, вероятно, был лоялен византийской фракции, которая пригласила Аглабидов . Аглабиды, типичные для других арабских династий, имели большой запас африканских наложниц, они давали детям наложниц племенные имена, Халфун упоминается как часть Рабии, что делает его более чем вероятным потомком африканской наложницы. Мифрак (возможно, был славянским солдатом-рабом из Палермо, потому что историки, упоминающие его попытки получить признание в качестве вали, не обращались к нему ни по какому племенному имени, и он мог служить в той же должности до того, как захватить власть), Саудан является потомком араба- калбида , в отличие от Халфуна, его племенное имя связывает его с конкурирующими калбидами , которые позже объединились с североафриканскими Фатимидами. Потомство наложниц было доминирующим типом в арабских династиях на Сицилии, раннее потомство было в основном африканским (нубийцы, эфиопы и более южные субсахарцы), взятие рабов-сикуло было гораздо более доминирующим на поздних этапах завоевания, Бари является побочным продуктом раннего этапа завоевания. Droveaxle ( обсуждение ) 06:46, 2 мая 2018 (UTC) [ ответить ]

Халфун описывается как аль-Барбари Баладури. По словам Марко Ди Бранко: " era certamente di stirpe berbera ". Каковы ваши источники? Srnec (обсуждение) 00:20, 3 мая 2018 (UTC) [ ответить ]

Греки и арабы также называли сомалийцев, дарфурцев и большую часть сахеля берберами, только в 11 веке, когда началась работорговля, занджей стали определять как более крупную расу субсахарцев, до недавнего времени сомалийцы и народ фур (дарфур) назывались берберами. Поэтому Бербера на Африканском Роге до сих пор так называется, наследие греческих и арабских историков, которые присвоили этот термин (сомалийцы, сахельцы и североафриканские берберы). Берберы в целом не были рабами, за исключением Сахеля, где ранняя торговля принимала рабов из этого региона. Позже зандж означало банту , но в то время это могли быть африканцы Нубии-Чада, поскольку это были новые земли для недавно прибывших аравийских Аглабидов.

Берберы Китама (которые были активно вовлечены в Сицилию), вместе с арабами-калбидами и греческими рабами-сикуло сыграли важную роль в борьбе с Аглабидами на Сицилии, в Тунисе и в конечном итоге в установлении халифа Фатимидов, Каир был взят армией во главе с сицилийским греком-рабом, но эта эпоха наступила на два столетия позже Бари. К тому времени рабский состав стал в основном греко-сикуло, племена Китама были берберским составом с высокогорий к западу от тунисских низменностей, находившихся под властью Аглабидов и других арабов. Эти берберы Китама — это то, что мы до сих пор называем берберами сегодня, они вошли на Сицилию как армия вместе с Аглабидами и позже изменили союз на Фатмидов и в конечном итоге были изгнаны из Сицилии через местный союз арабов-сикуло-сакалиба.

Решите, какое слово использовать, пока я оставил его как африканский, это не должно быть сарацин, араб или бербер, так как эти слова означают что-то другое сегодня, также зандж времен Аглабидов (африканцы-нубийцы Сахеля), это не тот же зандж более поздней эпохи работорговли (больше банту). Большинство материалов, написанных о Бари в более поздние времена, являются либо религиозными церковными упоминаниями, либо более поздними мусульманскими записями, оба с определенными повестками дня, не совсем точными. Droveaxle ( обсуждение ) 09:16, 4 мая 2018 (UTC) [ ответить ]

@ Droveaxle : Я понимаю, что вы говорите, но вам придется ссылаться на некоторые источники, чтобы изменить страницу, поскольку для «берберов» были предоставлены надежные источники. Каковы ваши источники этнического состава исламских армий, действующих на Сицилии и юге Италии? Srnec (обсуждение) 15:35, 6 июня 2018 (UTC) [ ответить ]

Мне понадобится поддержка на Talk:Священная Римская Империя . Польские националисты — это те люди, которым очень трудно объяснить правду . Ernio48 ( talk ) 00:02, 3 мая 2018 (UTC) [ ответить ]

Ваш информационный бюллетень по военной истории Новости проекта: От редакции; награды и почести; результаты конкурса Статьи: Новинки прошлого месяца и первоклассный контент Рецензия на книгу: Hawkeye7 рассматривает коалиции и логистику во Второй мировой войне, а Nick-D — пограничные войны Австралии Хронология: Этот месяц Первой мировой войны

Пожалуйста, не отменяйте мою правку, которую я добавил в статью, а затем удалил. Королевство Германия — одно из трех королевств (лат. Tria Regna ), которые были частями раннесредневековой Священной Римской империи. Королевство Италия и Королевство Арль (Бургундия) также имеют собственные инфобоксы, Германия была единственной, у которой их не было, и именно по этой причине я добавил инфобокс в Германию, хотя информация там очень похожа на Священную Римскую империю, но это не без причины. Если вы обнаружите и заявите, что какая-то информация там не соответствует действительности, пожалуйста, удалите ее или измените, это лучший способ, с моей точки зрения. Dragovit ( talk ) 08:31, 1 июня 2018 (UTC) [ ответить ]

Нет консенсуса относительно того, чтобы эта статья имела инфобокс, как это ясно из истории правок и страницы обсуждения. Страница отслеживается, поэтому вы можете снова поднять ее на странице обсуждения и посмотреть, куда она пойдет. Srnec (обсуждение) 15:20, 1 июня 2018 (UTC) [ ответить ]

Автоматизированный процесс обнаружил, что при недавнем редактировании культуры Ордоса вы добавили ссылку, указывающую на страницу разрешения неоднозначности индоевропейская (проверьте для подтверждения | исправить с помощью решателя Dab).

( Инструкции по отказу .) -- DPL bot ( обсуждение ) 09:30, 6 июня 2018 (UTC) [ ответить ]

Ваш информационный бюллетень по военной истории Новости проекта: От редакции; награды и почести; результаты конкурса Статьи: Новинки прошлого месяца и первоклассный контент Рецензия на книгу: Последние внешние рецензии Комментарий: TomStar81 о суперпушке Первой мировой войны Хронология: Этот месяц Первой мировой войны

Привет, Срнец,

Недавно я искал редакторов, которых можно было бы пригласить присоединиться к New Page Patrol, и, судя по вашей истории редактирования, вы были бы хорошим кандидатом. Просмотр/патрулирование страницы не занимает много времени, но требует хорошего понимания политик и правил Википедии; нам бы пригодилась дополнительная помощь от опытного пользователя, такого как вы.

Не могли бы вы рассмотреть возможность стать новым обозревателем страниц ? (После получения флага патрулирование не является обязательным. Вы можете делать это, когда вам удобно). Но, пожалуйста, прочтите руководство, прежде чем принять решение. Если вы решите подать заявку, вы можете оставить ее на WP:PERM/NPR .

Приветствую и надеюсь увидеть вас здесь, — Вставьтеcleverphraseздесь ^{( или здесь )} 12:53, 16 июня 2018 (UTC) [ ответить ]

Здравствуйте. Я действительно понятия не имел, что в этой книге нет такой страницы. К своему стыду, я не проверил. Просто нашел ее в другой статье и принял как должное. Теперь мне очень неловко. Еще раз извините за беспокойство. Torpilorul ( talk ) 18:32, 16 июня 2018 (UTC) [ ответить ]

Привет, Srnec, я только что заметил эти изменения в статье об Альфонсо VI Леонском и Кастильском . Во втором абзаце «почему» относительно заявления Рейли о его возрасте, когда он умер. В третьем абзаце «как» относительно хартии, подписанной всеми детьми, кроме Эльвиры, как упоминал использованный источник, Санчес Кандейра (он не вдается в подробности, просто говорит, что они подписали документ... даже если они были слишком малы, чтобы подписывать, это была обычная практика в то время, и почти новорожденные появляются, подтверждая хартии). Как мне ответить на второй? Я не могу ответить на первый, так как у меня нет работы Рейли. С уважением, -- Maragm ( talk ) 05:16, 21 июня 2018 (UTC) (просто думаю, что эти абзацы очень хорошо ссылаются, и стыдно иметь эти шаблоны). [ ответить ]

Я не совсем уверен, почему Рейли (и Сальвадор Мартинес) используют в Crónica de Sahagún фразу "setenta y dos", хотя ясно сказано "sesenta y dos" (по крайней мере, в издании Пуйоля). Сальвадор Мартинес даже цитирует ее подробно (с setenta ). Возможно, есть причина. Я пока поместил ее в заметку.

Я думаю, что «как» было просто о том, какое действие «подтвердить» влекло за собой. Я заменил слово на «подписано». Srnec (обсуждение) 23:27, 21 июня 2018 (UTC) [ ответить ]

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На Ƣalib был помещен тег с просьбой о его скорейшем удалении из Википедии. Это было сделано в соответствии с разделом R3 критериев скорейшего удаления , поскольку это перенаправление с неправдоподобной опечатки или неправильного названия.

Если вы считаете, что эта страница не должна быть удалена по этой причине, вы можете оспорить номинацию , посетив страницу и нажав кнопку с надписью «Оспорить это быстрое удаление». Это даст вам возможность объяснить, почему вы считаете, что страница не должна быть удалена. Однако имейте в виду, что как только страница помечена как требующая быстрого удаления, она может быть удалена без задержки. Пожалуйста, не удаляйте тег быстрого удаления со страницы самостоятельно, но не стесняйтесь добавлять информацию в соответствии с политикой и рекомендациями Википедии . — kashmīrī  ^TALK 12:51, 12 июля 2018 (UTC) [ ответить ]

Здравствуйте, Srnec. Я выполнил технический ход, который вы просили. Теперь, когда это сделано, не могли бы вы проверить запись в Wikidata, чтобы убедиться, что она вам подходит? Я не уверен, что все разные Википедии ссылаются на одного и того же человека. Это тот же человек, что и Пфальцграф фон Лотринген? Запись в Neue Deutsche Biographie цитируется, но в тексте этой статьи Лотринген не упоминается. Немецкая Википедия называет этого человека de:Siegfried I. (Weimar-Orlamünde). В немецкой Википедии графы наследования, похоже, более полные. Спасибо, EdJohnston ( talk ) 20:40, 15 июля 2018 (UTC) [ ответить ]

Спасибо, EdJohnston . Да, ссылки выглядят правильно. В нашей статье написано "граф пфальцграф Рейнландский" (в немецком языке Pfalzgraf bei Rhein ), но некоторые источники называют графство Лотарингия ( Lothringen ). То же самое. Я уже сделал перенаправление на Siegfried I of Weimar-Orlamünde . Srnec (обсуждение) 21:41, 15 июля 2018 (UTC) [ ответить ]

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( Инструкции по отказу .) -- DPL bot ( обсуждение ) 09:05, 3 августа 2018 (UTC) [ ответить ]

В нынешнем виде это нарушение авторских прав, содержащее, насколько я могу судить, только неатрибутированный материал из других статей. Краткое изложение редактирования «удалить перенаправление» не кажется совсем точным, так как редактор также добавил весь текущий контент. Любое слияние требует разбора проблемы копирования в Википедии. Doug Weller talk 10:11, 4 августа 2018 (UTC) [ ответить ]

Я хотел вернуться, но первоначальная цель перенаправления была неправильной («Оманская империя» определенно не началась в 1820 году и не просуществовала до 1970 года), а альтернативная цель, Султанат Маскат , была заглушкой. Это единственная причина, по которой я оставил все как есть и просто добавил к нему тег. Из каких статей этот текст? Srnec (обсуждение) 16:10, 4 августа 2018 (UTC) [ ответить ]

Извините, я не слежу за вашей страницей. О, черт, взгляните на эту правку. Он оставил источник как Beck, который здесь, но заменил текст на материал, защищенный авторским правом, отсюда. Новый текст вообще не на Beck. Это не заставляет меня доверять редактору. Earwig показывает больше.[1] Doug Weller talk 12:49, 9 августа 2018 (UTC) [ ответить ]

Возможно, мне стоило отправить вам сообщение. В любом случае, похоже, материал был удален. Тем не менее, есть серьезная проблема с нашим освещением. Я понятия не имею, почему 1820 год — это дата, которая отделяет наш султанат Маскат от наших Маската и Омана . В первом даже не упоминается Занзибар, что, предположительно, и подтолкнуло нашего нового редактора к действию. Я не знаю, является ли «Оманская империя» лучшим названием, и я не считаю, что три статьи необходимы, но в настоящее время эти две статьи не очень помогают. Однажды... Srnec (обсуждение) 02:30, 10 августа 2018 (UTC) [ ответить ]

Администратор Диана вернула его обратно на перенаправление из-за всех материалов, защищенных авторским правом, и редактор, который его добавил, был весьма недоволен.[2] Выступление Дуга Уэллера 13:54, 10 августа 2018 (UTC) [ ответить ]

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( Инструкции по отказу .) -- DPL bot ( обсуждение ) 09:12, 10 августа 2018 (UTC) [ ответить ]

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( Инструкции по отказу .) -- DPL bot ( обсуждение ) 09:20, 24 августа 2018 (UTC) [ ответить ]

Открыт прием заявок на предстоящие выборы координатора проекта. На следующий год будет избрана команда из десяти координаторов. Координаторы проекта являются назначенными контактными лицами по вопросам, касающимся проекта, и отвечают за поддержание нашей внутренней структуры и процессов. Однако они не имеют никаких полномочий относительно содержания статьи или поведения редактора или каких-либо других особых полномочий. Более подробная информация о том, как стать координатором, доступна здесь . Если вы заинтересованы в баллотировании, пожалуйста, зарегистрируйтесь здесь до 23:59 UTC 14 сентября! Голосование начнется только 15 сентября. Если у вас есть вопросы, вы можете связаться с любым членом команды координаторов . Ура, доставка сообщений MediaWiki ( обсуждение ) 00:54, 1 сентября 2018 (UTC) [ ответить ]

Это пример того, что заставляет меня очень нервничать по поводу текстов Википедии. Во-первых, эти удивительные изменения не проверяются. Во-вторых, они, по-видимому, никогда не проверяются, учитывая, например, что слово «современный» просуществовало более 5 лет. Возможно, редакторам следует навязывать какую-то форму принятия статей, принимая одну из списка важных статей, чтобы регулярно проверять ее на наличие вопиющих инкрустаций. Спасибо, что исправили это. Shenme ( talk ) 05:10, 3 сентября 2018 (UTC) [ ответить ]

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Всем привет, открыто голосование за транш координатора военной истории Wikiproject 2018 года. Это простое голосование за одобрение; можно голосовать только за «поддержку». Участники проекта должны проголосовать за любых кандидатов, которых они поддерживают, до 23:59 (UTC) 28 сентября 2018 года. Спасибо, Доставка сообщения MediaWiki ( обсуждение ) 00:35, 15 сентября 2018 года (UTC) [ ответить ]

Всем доброго дня, открыто голосование за транш координатора военной истории Wikiproject 2018 года . Это простое голосование за одобрение; можно голосовать только за «поддержку». Участники проекта должны проголосовать за любых кандидатов, которых они поддерживают, до 23:59 (UTC) 28 сентября 2018 года. Спасибо, Доставка сообщения MediaWiki ( обсуждение ) 06:22, 15 сентября 2018 года (UTC) Примечание: в предыдущей версии не было ссылки на страницу выборов, поэтому вы получаете это сообщение со ссылкой на страницу выборов для исправления предыдущей версии. Приносим извинения за возможные неудобства. [ ответить ]

Могу ли я узнать ваши мысли по этому поводу? -- Kansas Bear ( обсуждение ) 19:56, 23 сентября 2018 (UTC) [ ответить ]

Кажется, Монтарг прав. В биографии Генриха IV Криса Гивена-Уилсона (Yale University Press), стр. 32, прим. 43, говорится, что ребенок был его невесткой. Он ссылается на тот же источник PRO, на который ссылается Уорд, Women of the English Nobility and Gentry, 1066–1500 , стр. 69. Вы можете прочитать его там; в нем не упоминаются Генрих или Мэри де Богун. Гивен-Уилсон считает, что отождествление «леди» в источнике с Мэри является неправильным прочтением. Гивен-Уилсон направляет меня к Яну Мортимеру, The Fears of Henry IV , app. III, для получения дополнительной информации. Мортимер указывает источник ошибки как биографию Генриха IV Уайли от 1884 года. Srnec (обсуждение) 20:18, 23 сентября 2018 (UTC) [ ответить ]

Спасибо, сэр! -- Kansas Bear ( обсуждение ) 20:26, 23 сентября 2018 (UTC) [ ответить ]

Всем привет, просто напоминаю, что голосование на выборах координатора по военной истории WikiProject скоро закроется. У вас остался всего один день или около того, чтобы высказать свое мнение о том, кто должен составить координационную команду на следующий год. Если вы уже проголосовали, спасибо за участие! Если вы еще не проголосовали и хотели бы это сделать, проголосуйте здесь до 23:59 UTC 28 сентября. Спасибо, доставка сообщения MediaWiki ( обсуждение ) 03:29, 26 сентября 2018 (UTC) [ ответить ]

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( Инструкции по отказу .) -- DPL bot ( обсуждение ) 09:17, 26 сентября 2018 (UTC) [ ответить ]

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Файл, который вы загрузили или изменили, Файл:Педор Манрике печать, обратная.PNG, был указан в Wikipedia:Файлы для обсуждения . Пожалуйста, просмотрите обсуждение , чтобы узнать, почему он был указан (вам, возможно, придется поискать название изображения, чтобы найти его запись). Не стесняйтесь добавлять свое мнение по этому вопросу под номинацией. Спасибо. Магог Людоед ( t • c ) 15:55, 13 октября 2018 (UTC) [ ответить ]

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( Инструкции по отказу .) -- DPL bot ( обсуждение ) 13:38, 4 ноября 2018 (UTC) [ ответить ]

Спасибо за создание Duke of Salerno .

Я только что просмотрел страницу в рамках нашего процесса курирования страниц .

Удовлетворяет gng

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1l2l3k ( обсуждение ) 13:27, 6 ноября 2018 (UTC) [ ответить ]

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Привет, Srnec, мне интересно, не могли бы вы помочь мне выяснить, был ли Гайяр II из Дюрфора, Гайяр III из Дюрфора или Гайяр IV из Дюрфора сенешалем Гаскони? Поиск в Google выдал ссылку из UK Nation Archives, в которой указано Гайяр III из Дюрфора. Этот французский текст также поддерживает Гайяра III. В статье в Википедии о сенешале Гаскони он указан как Гальяр II де Дюрфор (Гайяр II)? Любая помощь будет оценена по достоинству. С уважением, Newm30 ( обсуждение ) 06:58, 16 ноября 2018 (UTC) [ ответить ]

Я рассмотрю это. Srnec (обсуждение) 13:03, 16 ноября 2018 (UTC) [ ответить ]

@ Srnec : - Привет, мне интересно, были ли у Гайяра I де Дюрфора еще дети? Я видел упоминание о Маргарите де Дюрфор, которая была замужем за Раймоном де Дониссаном? Не уверен, можете ли вы это подтвердить? С уважением Newm30 ( talk ) 03:54, 27 ноября 2018 (UTC) [ ответить ]

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( Инструкции по отказу .) -- DPL bot ( обсуждение ) 09:23, 26 ноября 2018 (UTC) [ ответить ]

Где в wp:ncs сказано, что названиям кораблей должен предшествовать определенный артикль "the"? Не могли бы вы указать на это? Иначе зачем бы вам отменять этот перенос страницы и все последующие соответствующие правки? Единственное соответствующее указание, которое я смог найти в wp:ncs, было в разделе " Использование названий кораблей в статьях ";

Не используйте определенный артикль («the») перед префиксом или при первом упоминании корабля, например, в начале вводной части.

Как правило, определенный артикль перед названием судна не требуется, хотя его использование технически не является неправильным.

Но даже тогда, что в этом говорит о том, что удаление определенного артикля «the» настолько спорно, что необходим « RM »? - wolf 01:32, 27 ноября 2018 (UTC) [ ответить ]

@ Thewolfchild : Я никогда не говорил, что названиям кораблей должен предшествовать определенный артикль, а только то, что соглашение об именовании не препятствует его использованию. По моему мнению, "Capture of the Anne " читается гораздо более естественно и понятно как заголовок статьи, чем "Capture of Anne ", где курсив делает слишком много работы. Если вы считаете иначе, отправьте его в RM и посмотрите, что подумают другие. Вы не ошиблись, переместив статью. Я не говорю, что вы должны были знать, что для этого требуется RM. Я говорю, что теперь, когда я вернул его, он требуется. Srnec (обсуждение) 01:58, 27 ноября 2018 (UTC) [ ответить ]

На самом деле, это уже было поднято на WT:MILHIST#Capture of the Anne . Я поднял вопрос о том, чтобы "the" было в названии неделю назад. Никто не высказался в пользу его сохранения, но пара редакторов высказались за его удаление, поэтому я это сделал. Теперь, зная, что wt:milhist гораздо более посещаем, чем страница обсуждения "Capture of Anne ", и имея в виду, что "the" предшествующие названия кораблей регулярно удаляются из многочисленных статей о кораблях многочисленными редакторами, достаточно ли этого для вас, чтобы поддержать этот шаг, или вы все еще хотите настаивать на RM? - wolf 02:12, 27 ноября 2018 (UTC) [ ответить ]

Поскольку вы уже искали локальный консенсус, почему бы не поискать более широкий консенсус? Srnec (обсуждение) 02:48, 27 ноября 2018 (UTC) [ ответить ]

Ну, учитывая, что в руководстве четко указано: « Не используйте определенный артикль («the»)… при представлении корабля в первый раз» , и, очевидно, в этом случае корабль «представлен» в заголовке статьи , мне интересно, зачем вообще нужен RM, когда у нас уже есть руководство, указывающее правильные действия. Так вы надеетесь на консенсус, который будет противоречить руководству? Что тогда? И уверены ли вы вообще, что будет консенсус против этого шага (и руководства)…? Если нет, то зачем настаивать на этом упражнении? - wolf 04:42, 27 ноября 2018 (UTC) [ ответить ]

Я понятия не имею, что думает сообщество в целом. Для этого нам понадобится RM. Я привел свои причины, по которым я считаю, что текущий заголовок (с «the») лучше. В RM я бы переформулировал их. Как вы думаете, руководство в том виде, в котором вы его интерпретируете, имеет консенсус сообщества или нет? Если да, то в чем проблема с его подтверждением? Я лично не думаю, что руководство было предназначено для описательных заголовков. Например, у нас есть FA с явно не относящимся к руководству названием « Затопление RMS Titanic» , в то время как «Пассажиры RMS Titanic» и «Крушение RMS Titanic» являются GA. Затем есть «Затопление Rainbow Warrior» , «Затопление RMS Lusitania» и «Затопление Petrel» . Справедливости ради, есть «Затопление Prince of Wales» и «Отпор» и другие статьи, которые соответствуют руководству, как вы его видите. В целом, неясно, есть ли у вашего толкования консенсус. Срнец (обсуждение) 00:54, 28 ноября 2018 (UTC) [ ответить ]

У вас странный способ использования слова «интерпретация». Например, вы говорите, что считаете, что «the» следует включить в заголовок, потому что « он читается более естественно », это личное предпочтение. Когда я цитировал правила, это было констатацией факта. Как и «интерпретации». Тем не менее, да... Я знаю, что есть некоторые статьи, которые в настоящее время нарушают правила. Я как раз собирался исправить одну (на самом деле другую), когда вы вернули «Захват Анны ». Есть много статей GA/FA, которые содержат ошибки, некоторые даже были мистификацией ). «Хорошие» и «Избранные» не означают «идеальные».

Есть причины, по которым у нас есть эти правила, одна из них заключается в том, что «Взятие Анны » выглядит и звучит невероятно неуклюже, и именно по этой причине у нас нет статей с заголовками: « Взятие Рима », « Взятие Адольфа Эйхмана », « Убийство Юлия Цезаря » или « Смерть Усамы бен Ладена ». Наличие определенного артикля «the» перед именем просто неуместно, будь то имя человека или судна (которые обычно называют в честь людей, как это и есть).

Но вы, похоже, совершенно непреклонны в этом вопросе, поэтому я начну RM. Но, на самом деле, поскольку перемещение страницы было поддержано руководством, я лично думаю, что вам следует самостоятельно отменить все изменения, а затем начать RfC на странице обсуждения WP:NCS. (Но я не вижу, чтобы вы это делали... если только RM не пойдет не по вашему пути.) - wolf 02:13, 28 ноября 2018 (UTC) [ ответить ]

		Командная работа Barnstar
		В знак признания той роли, которую вы сыграли в очистке моей ужасной орфографии и грамматики в серии статей о Первой мировой войне, опубликованной в информационном бюллетене WikiProject по военной истории The Bugle за последние четыре года, настоящим представляю вам эту командную работу barnstar. Именно благодаря стольким разным редакторам, таким как вы, которые потратили время на копирование и редактирование почти четырехлетней серии, она в конечном итоге стала такой успешной, какой она была, и я благодарен вам за вашу помощь, поскольку орфография и грамматика не являются моими сильными сторонами. Искренне ваш, TomStar81 ( Обсуждение ) 14:38, 2 декабря 2018 (UTC) [ ответить ]

Номинации на ежегодные премии «Военный историк года» и «Новичок года в области военной истории» принимаются до 23:59 (GMT) 15 декабря 2018 года. Почему бы вам не номинировать редакторов, которые, по вашему мнению, внесли реальный вклад в проект в 2018 году? Доставка сообщения MediaWiki ( обсуждение ) 02:26, ​​3 декабря 2018 (UTC) [ ответить ]

Ваш информационный бюллетень по военной истории Новости проекта: От редакции; награды и почести; результаты конкурса Статьи: Новинки прошлого месяца и первоклассный контент Рецензия на книгу: Последние внешние рецензии Комментарий: Инди-жук изучает военные газеты в Восточной Африке

Добрый день, Срнец. Мне было интересно, не могли бы вы мне помочь с двумя вопросами.

1. Были ли у Гайяра I де Дюрфора еще дети? Я видел упоминание о Маргарите де Дюрфор, которая была замужем за Раймоном де Дониссаном? Не уверен, можете ли вы это подтвердить?

2. Правильно ли пишется Александр (Аниссан) де Комон, сеньор Сент-Базея, или это Аликсандр де Комон? Этот Комон действовал в 1346 году на стороне англичан с Дюрфором.

С уважением Newm30 ( обсуждение ) 01:01, 10 декабря 2018 (UTC) [ ответить ]

Я видел первый вопрос раньше, но забыл ответить. Нет, я пока не нашел источника для других детей, кроме Гайяра II. Что касается второго, то я предполагаю, что "Alixandre" — это современное написание, а "Alexandre" — это просто упорядоченное современное французское написание. Если есть статья в одной форме, то должна быть переадресация с другой. (Я добавил красную ссылку на Alixandre de Caumont в Lancaster's chevauchée, основываясь на написании в Gribit.) Srnec (обсуждение) 01:14, 10 декабря 2018 (UTC) [ ответить ]

Это нормально и спасибо, я проверю источники и создам Alixandre de Caumont в ближайшее время. С уважением Newm30 ( обсуждение ) 00:41, 11 декабря 2018 (UTC) [ ответить ]

В настоящее время на [[3]] обсуждается вопрос, в который вы могли быть вовлечены. Обсуждение посвящено теме Происхождение румын . Спасибо.Iovaniorgovan ( talk ) 06:48, 11 декабря 2018 (UTC) [ ответить ]

Голосование за наших ежегодных «Военный историк года» и «Новичок года в военной истории» открыто до 23:59 (GMT) 30 декабря 2018 года. Почему бы вам не проголосовать за редакторов, которые, по вашему мнению, внесли реальный вклад в освещение военной истории в Википедии в 2018 году? Доставка сообщения MediaWiki ( обсуждение ) 02:17, 16 декабря 2018 (UTC) [ ответить ]

Автоматизированный процесс обнаружил, что при недавнем редактировании De Casibus Virorum Illustrium вы добавили ссылку, указывающую на страницу разрешения неоднозначности Constantine III (проверьте для подтверждения | исправить с помощью решателя Dab).

( Инструкции по отказу .) -- DPL bot ( обсуждение ) 09:33, 16 декабря 2018 (UTC) [ ответить ]

Здравствуйте, Srnec! Спасибо за исправление. Я просто хотел бы спросить, если у вас есть легкий доступ, страницы, где вы взяли даты 28 июня и 8 июля, упомянутые в подразделе Supreme commander. Испанская версия статьи упоминает, с источниками, 15 июля как день, когда Галиб объявил о своей победе, но нет никаких упоминаний о других датах. Ура!--Renato de carvalho ferreira ( talk ) 03:22, 17 декабря 2018 (UTC) [ ответить ]

Марагм  ( обсуждение  · вклад ) и Роуэнвиндвистлер  ( обсуждение  · вклад ), возможно, вы оба сможете помочь.--Ренато де Карвалью Феррейра ( обсуждение ) 03:23, 17 декабря 2018 г. (UTC) [ ответить ]

Huici Miranda (т. е. статья Encyclopaedia of Islam ) говорит: In 364/974 he undertook a carefully prepared expedition against the Castile-Navarre-Leon coalition in which he beat firstly the Christian allies under the walls of Gormaz, then count Garcia Fernandez at Langa, south of the Duero, on 25 Shawwal 364/8 July 975.Makki просто помещает «поражения» в « Shawwal 364/June 975». Я не уверен, откуда я взял дату «28 июня» или почему я не указал источник для нее, так как я не могу найти ее у Kennedy. Возможно, моя ссылка на Ibn Hayyan была неполной... потому что источник, который я сейчас добавил для даты 28 июня (Pick), действительно ссылается на Ibn Hayyan. Я также могу подтвердить, что Meouak, согласно испанской Wiki, говорит, что Córdoba получила отчет о победах 15 июля. Однако Meouak не приводит подробностей о победах. Srnec (обсуждение) 03:58, 17 декабря 2018 (UTC) [ ответить ]

		Счастливых Сатурналий
		Желаю вам и вашим близким счастливого праздничного сезона от человека, занимающегося лошадьми и епископами. Пусть предстоящий год будет продуктивным и без троллей. Ealdgyth - Talk 17:09, 18 декабря 2018 (UTC) [ ответить ]

Я пошел вперед и дал вам +extendedmoverэтот аккаунт, так как вы достаточно часто публикуете посты в RM/TR, так что это, вероятно, будет полезно. WP:PAGESWAP — это скрипт, который позволяет вам перемещать страницы через перенаправления. Если вы этого не хотите, дайте мне знать, но я подумал, что сэкономлю бюрократию, предлагая это, и вы перейдете в PERM. Стандартные комментарии о прочтении руководств по использованию в WP:PGM и использовании WP:RM , если перемещение может быть спорным. TonyBallioni ( talk ) 00:53, 29 декабря 2018 (UTC) [ ответить ]

Спасибо! Srnec (обсуждение) 01:00, 29 декабря 2018 (UTC) [ ответить ]

Автоматизированный процесс обнаружил, что при недавнем редактировании Makk вы добавили ссылку, указывающую на страницу устранения неоднозначности Meroitic (проверьте для подтверждения | исправить с помощью решателя Dab).

( Инструкции по отказу .) -- DPL bot ( обсуждение ) 09:30, 2 января 2019 (UTC) [ ответить ]

Ваш информационный бюллетень по военной истории Новости проекта: От редакции; награды и почести; результаты конкурса Статьи: Новинки прошлого месяца и первоклассный контент Рецензия на книгу: Nick-D смотрит на Альберта Шпеера Редакционная статья: Factotem о распространенных проблемах, влияющих на инфобоксы Хронология: Этот месяц Первой мировой войны

Привет, Srnec. Не могли бы вы рассказать подробнее [4]? По словам Риччоли, [5], французское наступление началось 23 марта, до этого фронт был практически неподвижен и в основном укомплектован американскими войсками. Если расширить рамки до августа 1944 года, статья может потерять фокус, как мне кажется. С уважением -- RD47 ( обсуждение ) 14:49, 8 января 2019 (UTC) [ ответить ]

Это нормально. Вы можете вернуться, если хотите. Srnec (обсуждение) 22:58, 8 января 2019 (UTC) [ ответить ]

Эй, чувак. Так что теперь происходит с Talk:Burma_National_Army#Requested_move_1_January_2019 теперь, когда 7 дней истекли? Будет ли он объединен? Переименован? Единственным обсуждением была «поддержка» от тебя, так что, похоже, он «победитель»...?
-- Havsjö ( talk ) 16:35, 8 января 2019 (UTC) [ ответить ]

Администратор в конце концов придет и закроет его, хотя, учитывая низкую «явку», они могут решить повторно разместить его. В противном случае он будет перемещен. Я не могу этого сделать, потому что я вовлечен. После перемещения оставшуюся статью в Burmese Independence Army можно будет превратить в перенаправление с уведомлением о том, что материал был объединен. Srnec (обсуждение) 22:58, 8 января 2019 (UTC) [ ответить ]

Автоматизированный процесс обнаружил, что при недавнем редактировании Second Battle of Dongola вы добавили ссылку, указывающую на страницу неоднозначности Mortar (проверьте для подтверждения | исправить с помощью решателя Dab).

( Инструкции по отказу .) -- DPL bot ( обсуждение ) 09:19, 10 января 2019 (UTC) [ ответить ]

Его сын, Уолтер (Гоше), не погиб в Дамиетте? -- Kansas Bear ( обсуждение ) 03:44, 13 января 2019 (UTC) [ ответить ]

Он сделал. Просто это уже упоминалось в тексте. Теперь я вижу, что имя там было на французском. Я добавил его снова для ясности. Srnec (обсуждение) 03:48, 13 января 2019 (UTC) [ ответить ]

Ладно. Ничего страшного. Спасибо. -- Kansas Bear ( обсуждение ) 03:52, 13 января 2019 (UTC) [ ответить ]

Мне показалось любопытным, что спустя более десяти лет мы снова пересекаемся по тому же вопросу (благородный перечень: [6] [7]). Я пользуюсь случаем, чтобы поблагодарить вас за пару статей ( Ротру III из Перче , Санчо Санчес ), которые я перевел на испанский язык: и которые были очень полезны для недавнего проекта, в котором я участвовал в испанской Википедии. -- FAR ( обсуждение ) 02:21, 26 января 2019 (UTC) [ ответ ]

Спасибо! Трудно поверить, что прошло так много времени. Srnec (обс.) 05:10, 26 января 2019 (UTC) [ ответить ]

Здравствуйте. Я думал найти относительно короткую, но очень интересную статью (например, Манфред, король Сицилии ), отполировать ее формат ссылок таким же образом, как Аристотель , перепроверить каждый цитируемый факт и его связь с источником и т. д. и пропустить ее через FAC. Это может быть весело. [Хотя я беспокоюсь, что у меня может не быть доступа к этим источникам]. Мысли? Интересно? ♦  Lingzhi2  (обсуждение) 21:27, 4 февраля 2019 (UTC) [ ответить ]

@ Lingzhi2 : Я мог бы помочь вам с источниками, но это все. У меня слишком длинный список вещей, над которыми я хотел бы поработать, чтобы добавить больше. Srnec (обсуждение) 14:13, 12 февраля 2019 (UTC) [ ответить ]

Я как бы мечусь туда-сюда, хочу ли я вообще что-то делать по статьям. Но эта конкретная статья выглядит и выполнимой, и интересной. Я соблазняюсь... если вам не интересно, то да, я был бы признателен за любые источники, которые у вас могут быть. Я потерял весь свой доступ к jstor и т. д. и т. п. И если вам когда-нибудь понадобится какая-либо помощь по какой-либо статье, не стесняйтесь написать мне. Спасибо! ♦  Lingzhi2  (обсуждение) 14:32, 12 февраля 2019 (UTC) [ ответить ]

Мне ОЧЕНЬ жаль, я уже писал вам ответ на странице обсуждения, но ваш оригинальный ответ оказался втиснут между моим большим сообщением и "PS", поэтому я даже не заметил его до сих пор!! Я отредактировал свой ответ и приношу извинения за свой оригинальный ответ, который показался мне излишне "агрессивным" из-за моей ошибки, когда я не увидел вашего сообщения... -- Havsjö ( обсуждение ) 15:35, 5 февраля 2019 (UTC) [ ответ ]

Привет, Srnec. Думаю, я, возможно, смешал некоторую информацию об одном или двух Жанах в статье John Harpeden , который на самом деле может быть не сенешалем Гаскони, а Jean I или Jean II, причем John Harpeden, возможно, является близким родственником. Ваши мысли и любая помощь будут оценены по достоинству. С уважением, Newm30 ( обсуждение ) 03:17, 10 февраля 2019 (UTC) [ ответить ]

Посмотрю, что смогу найти. Srnec (обс.) 05:04, 10 февраля 2019 (UTC) [ ответить ]

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Привет, Срнец,

Я видел ваши правки в довольно большом количестве статей о средневековой Европе и хотел бы попросить вас помочь мне найти ссылки на годы рождения и смерти нескольких менее известных королей из династии Меровингов (rois faineats), поскольку сейчас многие из приведенных дат/источников сомнительны.

Большое спасибо! FlavusTitus — Предыдущий неподписанный комментарий добавлен FlavusTitus ( обсуждение • вклад ) 09:59, 12 февраля 2019 (UTC) [ ответить ]

Да, я могу помочь вам с датами. Я планировал работать над Меровингами в течение десяти лет. Я закончил Хлотаря IV и работаю над Дагобертом II вне вики. Srnec (обсуждение) 14:13, 12 февраля 2019 (UTC) [ ответить ]

Привет, Срнец,

Большое спасибо за помощь. На данный момент я думаю, что сыновьям Хлодвига II (Хлотарь III, Хильдерик II, Теодорих III) нужна проверка дат. Уже упоминалось, что они родились в 652, 653 и 651 годах соответственно: но Теодорих был младшим сыном и, следовательно, не может быть старшим по дате рождения. Как вы думаете, есть какая-то ошибка? — Предыдущий неподписанный комментарий добавлен FlavusTitus ( обсуждение • вклад ) 02:40, 13 февраля 2019 (UTC) [ ответить ]

Кажется, существуют некоторые разногласия по поводу того, был ли Хильдерик или Теудерик самым младшим. Если посмотреть на статьи в Оксфордском словаре поздней античности , в которых указаны даты рождения, Теудерик, «средний сын», родился около 651 г., Хильдерик, «младший сын», около 655 г., а Хлотарь, «старший сын», около 649 г. Он пришел к власти в 664 г. и к тому времени уже достиг совершеннолетия. Однако в Liber historiae francorum сыновья перечислены как Хлотарь-Цильдерик-Теудерик, что не гарантирует, что это был порядок рождения, а не просто порядок, в котором они правили. Fouracre и Gerberding , Late Merovingian France: History and Hagiography, 640–720 (Manchester University Press, 1996), на самом деле рассматривают этот вопрос напрямую: «Ее три сына родились вскоре после ее брака с Хлодвигом: Хлотарь между 649 и 652 годами, Хильдерик в 653 году и Теудерик в 654 году... Это лучшие догадки; даты рождения детей Балтильды не могут быть установлены. Источники расходятся во мнениях относительно порядка: LHF ch. 44 дает порядок как Хлотарь, Хильдерик и Теудерик, тогда как Passio Leudegarii ch. 5 меняет местами Теудерика и Хильдерика». Вот и все. Мы не знаем дат или порядка, хотя, если вы знаете, какой порядок, по вашему мнению, более вероятный, вы можете оценить даты с некоторой точностью (как это сделали ученые). Srnec (обсуждение) 03:38, 13 февраля 2019 (UTC) [ ответить ]

@ Kansas Bear : Просто сообщаю вам об этом, поскольку вы добавили существующие ссылки на дату рождения. Бахрах и др., конечно, хороши, но есть разногласия. Srnec (обсуждение) 03:42, 13 февраля 2019 (UTC) [ ответить ]

Так что, по-вашему, является лучшим предположением? Все, что я знаю, это то, что Хлодвиг II женился в 648 году, так что самое раннее, когда его дети могли родиться, это около 649 года. Но я не могу сделать никаких важных выводов по этому поводу FlavusTitus ( talk ) 10:41, 13 февраля 2019 (UTC) [ ответить ]

Привет @ Srnec : , Я просто хотел проверить, почему вы удалили заметку в верхней части страницы Fontan (деревня) - вы считаете ее бесполезной или есть политика в отношении заметок, о которой я не знаю? Спасибо, PeaBrainC ( обсуждение ) 14:55, 12 февраля 2019 (UTC) [ ответить ]

Вероятно, последнее. Политика WP:NOTAMB . Название "Fontan (деревня)" не является двусмысленным. Srnec (обсуждение) 14:58, 12 февраля 2019 (UTC) [ ответить ]

Спасибо, это логично. До того, как я изменил название страницы, там была заметка в шапке, но вы правы, сейчас она кажется ненужной. Каждый день можно найти новую политику! PeaBrainC ( talk ) 15:04, 12 февраля 2019 (UTC) [ ответить ]

Пожалуйста, не удаляйте шаблоны обслуживания со страниц Википедии, как вы это сделали с шрифтом Eastern Nagari , не разрешив проблему, на которую ссылается шаблон, или не указав вескую причину удаления в сводке правок . Ваше удаление этого шаблона не выглядит конструктивным и было отменено . Это действительные шаблоны, статья опирается на один источник, содержит некоторые сомнительные неподтвержденные утверждения и не соответствует общим требованиям значимости. Вы даже не обсудили проблемы на странице обсуждения и не попытались решить проблемы в статье, при этом неоднократно удаляя шаблоны. Это деструктивно. Za-ari-masen ( обсуждение ) 13:22, 19 февраля 2019 (UTC) [ ответ ]

Вы действуете недобросовестно. Если вы хотите, чтобы статья исчезла — а вы, очевидно, хотите — для этого есть возможность. В статье уже были теги для ссылок на источники. То, что вы делаете, граничит с вандализмом по отношению к статье, которая вам просто не нравится. Вы также удалили ссылки на нее отовсюду, где только могли. Почему бы не попытаться достичь консенсуса относительно того, что вы хотите? Srnec (обсуждение) 00:24, 20 февраля 2019 (UTC) [ ответить ]

Привет, Srnec, пожалуйста, не могли бы вы дать окончательное мнение по конкретному вопросу в обсуждении French Mandate RM? Он получил ограниченную поддержку у других редакторов, поэтому ваше мнение поможет внести ясность. Onceinawhile ( talk ) 19:29, 27 февраля 2019 (UTC) [ ответить ]

Привет, Srnec, я нашел некоторую информацию в [Nobiliaire Universel De France] о семье Сольерс. Большая часть информации начинается с Гайяра и далее. Я наткнулся на несколько генеалогических сайтов, которые показывают ряд Ростанов/Ростенов в линии, и мне было интересно, правильно ли я назвал эту статью. Я также обнаружил, что другой Ростанов, сын или внук, был сенешалем Сентонжа. Ваши мысли? С уважением, Newm30 ( обсуждение ) 08:12, 10 марта 2019 (UTC) [ ответить ]

@ Srnec : - Просто интересно, пропустили ли вы этот вопрос? Если у вас нет времени ответить, это нормально. С уважением, Newm30 ( talk ) 00:18, 26 марта 2019 (UTC) [ ответить ]

Определенно было больше одного Ростана де Солера, но трудно решить, сколько из них были индивидуально примечательными , особенно со всеми вариантами написания имени и фамилии. Я склонен думать, что нам следует устранить неоднозначность. По крайней мере, сенешаль Сентонжа примечателен. Srnec (обс.) 00:57, 26 марта 2019 (UTC) [ ответить ]

Ваш информационный бюллетень по военной истории Новости проекта: От редакции; награды и почести; результаты конкурса Статьи: Новинки прошлого месяца и первоклассный контент Рецензия на книгу: Hawkeye7 о безопасности полетов ВМС США и австралийских судебных процессах по военным преступлениям

Пожалуйста, прекратите свое разрушительное редактирование . Если вы продолжите вандализировать Википедию, как вы это делали в Reformed Orthodox и Reform Orthodox redirects, только потому, что название вашей статьи совпадает с названием движения восточнохристианской реформации , это не означает на самом деле и буквально , что каждая страница перенаправления должна идти только на одну страницу, в то время как другие статьи, которые все еще имеют почти или в основном такое же название, не могут быть исключены, я думаю, что вам могут запретить редактирование . Чад Козлочеловек ( обсуждение ) 19:06, 10 марта 2019 (UTC) [ ответить ]

Здравствуйте. Я вижу, что вы изменили цель перенаправления Халдей . Пожалуйста, можете ли вы помочь исправить полученные неправильно направленные ссылки ? Я предполагаю, что большинство из них должны вести на Арамейский язык#Древний арамейский (который может заслуживать подходящего перенаправления) или, возможно, Библейский арамейский , но для этого действительно нужен эксперт по предмету, чтобы разобраться с ними. Спасибо, Certes ( talk ) 16:29, 24 марта 2019 (UTC) [ ответить ]

Готово. Я вижу, что вы исправили ссылки на Altaic , но я отменил это изменение перенаправления, поскольку оно не должно перенаправлять на страницу DAB, особенно ту, что создана только что. Я думаю, что RM для страницы DAB в порядке. Srnec (обсуждение) 20:11, 24 марта 2019 (UTC) [ ответить ]

Ваш информационный бюллетень по военной истории Новости проекта: От редакции; награды и почести; результаты конкурса Статьи: Новинки прошлого месяца и первоклассный контент Обзор книги: Peacemaker67, Nick-D и Hawkeye7 рассматривают три книги, посвященные мировым войнам Статья: Инди Жук о падении Иди Амина

Когда вы создали эту страницу в 2010 году, вы назвали ее Гонсало Гарсия Гудиель. Это имя указано в испанской Википедии, но затем там сразу же говорится, что в современных документах он появляется как Гонсало Петрес Гудиель или просто Гонсало Перес (он был Гонсальбо Петрес, غنصالبه بيطرس, на своем родном толедском мосарабском арабском языке). Вы случайно не знаете, откуда взялось слово «Гарсия»? Это один из тех случаев, когда поздняя церковно-историческая традиция присвоила ему имя, которого он сам не носил? Я только что добавил ссылку на недавнюю научную биографию, в которой его называют Гонсало Перес Гудиель, и я думаю, что мы, возможно, захотим переместить нашу страницу, чтобы отразить это. Есть какие-нибудь мысли? Agricolae ( обсуждение ) 08:59, 18 апреля 2019 г. (UTC) [ ответить ]

Я не знал, но поиск в Google выдает это. Там говорится, что традиционное имя «Гонсало Гарсия Гудиель» датируется началом XVI века и постепенно вытесняется «Гонсало Перес Гудиель». Однако автор говорит, что нет никаких современных свидетельств для фамилии Гудиель. В современных документах засвидетельствовано только «Гонсало Перес». Нет возражений против перехода на Гонсало Перес Гудиель, поскольку Гонсало Перес занят. Srnec (обс.) 00:06, 19 апреля 2019 (UTC) [ ответить ]

К сожалению, ваша ссылка ведет на недоступную страницу (Google Books такой странный), но ваше резюме соответствует тому, что я подозревал. Думаю, я перенесу его, когда у меня будет время, чтобы провести сопутствующую очистку. Меня не слишком беспокоит «Гудиел» — это имя обычно используется для его семьи современными историками (отчасти потому, что мосарабы Толедо использовали достаточно небольшой набор имен, и было бы слишком много путаницы, если бы не было способа их различать). Я подозреваю, что существует гораздо больше таких церковных имен, которые основаны на поздней традиции, а не на современном употреблении - я знаю, что как епископ Калахоры (1283-6) настоящее имя Мартина Гарсии дошло до нас, но затем он отправился в Асторгу и по какой-то причине стал известен как Мартин Гонсалес, скрывая тот факт, что эти двое были на самом деле одним и тем же человеком, в то время как епископ Асторги 1226-1241 годов, известный как Нуньо Фернандес, никогда не появляется с этим патронимом ни в одной из современных записей, которые я видел. Agricolae ( talk ) 03:09, 19 апреля 2019 (UTC) [ ответить ]

Привет. Спасибо за ваши последние правки. Автоматизированный процесс обнаружил, что когда вы недавно редактировали Mabel de Bellême , вы добавили ссылку, указывающую на страницу разрешения неоднозначности Countess of Shrewsbury (проверьте для подтверждения | исправить с помощью Dab Solver). Такие ссылки обычно неверны , поскольку страница разрешения неоднозначности — это просто список не связанных между собой тем с похожими названиями. (Прочитайте FAQ  • Присоединяйтесь к нам в DPL WikiProject .)

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Привет, я хотел бы поблагодарить тебя за твой вклад в статью о Второй мировой войне во Французском Сомалиленде, которую я перевел на французский язык, поскольку, как ни странно, у нас не было статьи на эту тему --> fr:Histoire de la Côte française des Somalis pendant la Seconde Guerre mondiale. С наилучшими пожеланиями -- Kimdime ( talk ) 19:40, 29 апреля 2019 (UTC) [ ответить ]

Де Рьен! Срнец (обсуждение) 00:06, 30 апреля 2019 (UTC) [ ответить ]

В 2006 году вы посчитали уместным оклеветать германский народ (и франков, и баварцев, по-видимому) как варваров в этой редакции. Этот термин, греческого происхождения, всегда был оскорбительным и никогда не был описательным ни в каком контексте. Изменение пролетело мимо всех радаров, потому что оно было в конце длинного набора изменений и не упоминалось в резюме. Я удалил его. Wefa ( обсуждение ) 13:20, 30 апреля 2019 (UTC) [ ответ ]

Мое использование явно соответствовало современному использованию. Эйнхард, называющий себя homo barbarus , называет народы Германии , говорящие на схожих языках, barbaras . Ян Вуд, «Термин ›barbarus‹ в Галлии пятого, шестого и седьмого веков», в Zeitschrift für Literaturwissenschaft und Linguistik , 41, 4 (2011), 39–50, приводит множество примеров германских народов, называющих себя barbari , например, бургундцев в их своде законов. Слово ни в коем случае не было обычно или даже в основном нейтральным, но оно определенно не было «всегда ругательным и никогда не описательным в каком-либо контексте». Не ругайте меня снова. Srnec (обсуждение) 01:01, 1 мая 2019 (UTC) [ ответить ]

Wefa , правка, внесенная Srnec, на которую вы ссылались выше, не была вандализмом . Пожалуйста, помните, что нужно предполагать добросовестность и давать другим редакторам возможность проявить себя в ситуациях, когда чьи-либо намерения не являются на 100% явными, очевидными или известными. Манера, в которой вы озаглавили и сформулировали свое сообщение здесь, явно обвиняет Srnec в вандализме , который мы определяем как правки, внесенные с намерением быть преднамеренно вредоносными или нарушающими работу Википедии путем повреждения статьи или страницы. Это явно не то, что Srnec сделал с этой правкой. Обращение к кому-либо с таким сообщением, безусловно, разозлит большинство редакторов, а некоторых даже заставит расстроиться или даже разозлиться. Спросить Srnec, почему он добавил этот термин в свою правку в статью, или даже просто заявить, что вы не согласны с правкой и добавлением термина, — это гораздо лучший способ выразить свои мысли, чем называть их правки вандализмом. Пожалуйста, помните об этом при создании сообщений или при общении с другими редакторами в будущем. Это всегда будет вызывать больше положительных откликов и обсуждений от других, когда вы это делаете, и это убережет вас от наживы врагов здесь. ;-) Спасибо - ~Oshwah~ ^{(обсуждение) (вклад)} 11:57, 3 мая 2019 (UTC) [ ответить ]

Автоматизированный процесс обнаружил, что при недавнем редактировании Celtic languages ​​вы добавили ссылку, указывающую на страницу разрешения неоднозначностей Celtic diaspora (проверьте для подтверждения | исправить с помощью решателя Dab).

( Инструкции по отказу .) -- DPL bot ( обсуждение ) 09:09, 8 мая 2019 (UTC) [ ответить ]

Да, Хильдерик упоминался как король франков в римской армии, я полагаю, у Григория Турского. Ни в одном из источников этого периода не было уточнений о типах франков. Кроме того, хотя вы думаете, что Бельгика Секунда не важна для истории, на самом деле она важна, потому что она находилась на романизированной стороне Сильвы Карбонарии, куда, как сказал Григорий Турский, франки вторглись только недавно, во времена Хильдерика. Так что если вы ищете способ сказать, к какому типу франков они относились, Меровинги демонстрируют несколько признаков того, что они вошли в романизированную Галлию. Когда Хлодвиг завоевал франков, большинство маленьких королевств предположительно находились в Австразии, а позже в Лотарингии. Когда Хильдерик перестал быть «королем», на некоторое время он был сослан (своим римским начальником, который сам стал «королем франков») либо в область Тонгерен (которая находится в Австразии), либо в Тюрингию. Идея лидера иностранных войск, объявляющего себя королем новой этнической группы, начинается с Алариха в этот период. Это тема, о которой Гай Хэлсолл опубликовал статью.-- Эндрю Ланкастер ( обсуждение ) 14:33, 9 мая 2019 (UTC) [ ответить ]

Но Григорий пишет позже. Считали ли современники Хильдерика королем, когда он был еще римским полководцем, или он провозгласил себя королем, чтобы спасти свое положение, когда римская власть исчезла? Мы говорим о лиде, а не о теле. Я думаю, что Belgica Secunda без контекста бесполезна. То, что Меровинги изначально не были королями (всех) франков, имеет значение. Вот что я думаю. Мне все равно, если в лиде написано «Салиан», хотя, вероятно, Меровинги должны упоминаться как законодатели. Единственная проблема, которая у меня есть с настоящим предложением ( Они впервые появляются как «Короли франков» в римской армии северной Галлии. ) заключается в том, что «они» в этом контексте — это всего лишь один человек. У меня есть книга Халсолла ( Миграции варваров и римский Запад ). Srnec (обсуждение) 14:48, 9 мая 2019 (UTC) [ ответить ]

Григорий — один из лучших первоисточников нашего [человечества]. В основном все историки этого периода должны использовать его. Если мы согласимся, что его трудно избежать, я не собираюсь слишком сильно спорить о Belgica Secunda в качестве лидера, но альтернативой удалению является добавление/объяснение. Что касается «они», возможно, мы можем подправить это, но с другой стороны, это не так уж странно, когда вы помните, что мы говорим о династии, а не о племени, и династию можно рассматривать как ряд лиц. Хильдерик был «их предком», то есть предком династии Меровингов. Хлодвиг и Хильдерик OTOH, по-видимому, оба имели некоторую власть над Belgica Secunda. Конечно, мы не можем вместить все в первые предложения, и я не говорю, что мы должны это делать. — Эндрю Ланкастер ( обсуждение ) 18:45, 9 мая 2019 (UTC) [ ответить ]

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Спасибо, что указали, почему я был неправ в своем «исправлении» на странице «Сирийские отцы». Однако я действительно верю, что название этой страницы неверно. Хотя в какой-то момент времени вы были бы правы, что их называли бы сирийцами, современный академический термин для ближневосточных христиан, в частности из Месопотамии и Леванта, называется сирийцами. Согласны ли вы или нет с переименованием этой страницы в «Сирийские отцы»? — Предыдущий неподписанный комментарий добавлен Mirovekîaştiyê ( обсуждение • вклад ) 20:06, 2 июля 2019 (UTC) [ ответить ]

Проблема в том, что я не вижу много ссылок на «тринадцать [или 13] сирийских отцов». Я вижу несколько ссылок на «тринадцать [13] ассирийских отцов», но я вижу гораздо больше и лучшие источники, использующие «тринадцать [13] сирийских отцов». Я понимаю, что для многих такое использование термина «сирийский» может быть запутанным, но это довольно стандартно в литературе. Язык всегда называется сирийским, но его родными являются сирийцы. Статья «Грузинское христианство, сирийские контакты с» в энциклопедическом словаре сирийского наследия Горгия использует «Тринадцать сирийских отцов». Srnec (обсуждение) 23:49, 2 июля 2019 (UTC) [ ответить ]

Вы правы, сирийцы — это термин, который использовался для обозначения этих христиан, однако в современной академической среде и литературе этих людей называют сирийцами. См.:

Джон А. Шоуп, Этнические группы Африки и Ближнего Востока: Энциклопедия, стр. 30

Николас Альджелоо, Кто такие ассирийцы?

ОНН Ассирия

Стивен Л. Дэнвер, Коренные народы мира: энциклопедия групп, культур и современных проблем, стр. 517

Джеймс Минахан, Энциклопедия безгосударственных наций: AC, стр. 205-206

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Хорошее улучшение в источниках, но в настоящее время (и долгое время) это точка зрения. Есть еще одна школа научной мысли, что Химено был только регентом своего племянника. Хитрость в том, что династии Памплоны использовали королевский титул не только для королей - похоже, что Санчо Гарсес, дед королев Тоды и Санчи, использовал его как регент пленного Фортуна Гарсеса, в то время как позже Химено Санчес появляется с титулом, хотя он был всего лишь младшим братом Гарсии Санчеса II, так что типичное основание для вывода, выступая в качестве короля, не отвечает на вопрос в этом случае. В любом случае, я видел, как это изображалось обоими способами, так что это в списке «когда я найду время». Agricolae ( обсуждение ) 02:56, 6 июля 2019 (UTC) [ ответить ]

Документ 928, на который ссылается Коллинз 2012, переведен в Коллинз 1986, и действительно, он называет Гарсию creato Химено, но не называет его rex . Последний является regnante ... cum его племянником. Я слишком много прочитал в заявлении Коллинза 2012 о совместном правлении. Я не знал, что дед Тоды или Химено Санчес были названы королями... Мне придется разобраться в этом. Srnec (обсуждение) 04:27, 7 июля 2019 (UTC) [ ответить ]

Что касается деда Санчи, то это своего рода вывод, к кому это относится, но в это время в Памплоне появляется человек по имени король Санчо, и брат Фортуна — очевидный Санчо для этого. Одно упоминание появляется в рассказе аль-Удри, который пишет, что Мутарриф ибн Муса из Бану Каси женился на Веласките, дочери Санчо сахиба из Памплоны (сахиб — это тот же термин, который используется для описания Иньиго Аристы и Гарсии Иньигеса и представлен как король в христианских источниках; только с Санчо I они начали называть правителя Памплоны тем же термином, который используется для обозначения астурийских королей, «тиран», что отражает признание того, что они больше не были мелкими правителями в сфере влияния Кордовы). Ибн Джалдун говорит то же самое, но, возможно, не независимо от аль-Удри. Ибн Хайян, описывая то же самое, написал бы, что это была дочь сахиба Гарсии из Памплоны. Имея в виду, что оба летописца писали столетия спустя, аргументы могут быть выдвинуты в обоих направлениях. Успех Санчо I оказал такое влияние на психику аль-Андалус, что иногда вы видите, как Санчо используется как общее имя для лидера Памплоны, но с другой стороны, последний король, о котором говорил Ибн Хайян, был Гарсия Иньигес, поэтому он мог ассоциировать с ним общего короля Памплоны. Затем есть хартия от 867 года (во время плена Фортуна, статус Гарсии Иньигеса неизвестен - традиционная хронология его сомнительна), которая упоминает Галиндо Аснареса из Арагона "Galindo Asinari comes deprecor Sancium regum, generum meum" - король Санчо, мой зять. Опять же, это во время плена Фортуна, и нельзя не отметить, что его брат Санчо Гарсес был бы естественным регентом, если бы его отец умер или был недееспособен, и что Санчо назвал своего сына Аснаром. В совокупности это выглядит так, будто Санчо Гарсес упоминался с использованием королевского титула. см. здесь

Я видел статью, посвященную нетипичному использованию королевского титула в Памплоне в этот период, в которой обсуждаются некоторые примеры его более широкого использования, в том числе молодым Химено, но я не могу вспомнить автора. Agricolae ( обсуждение ) 16:50, 7 июля 2019 (UTC) [ ответить ]

Во время его брака с Констанцией Генрих был назван принцем? См. последнюю правку в Констанцию, королеву Сицилии .-- Kansas Bear ( обсуждение ) 07:05, 13 июля 2019 (UTC) [ ответ ]

Нет, потому что он уже был избран и коронован королем римлян. Srnec (обсуждение) 14:22, 13 июля 2019 (UTC) [ ответить ]

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Доброго дня, Srnec, надеюсь, у вас все хорошо. Мне было интересно, есть ли у вас какие-либо источники для Юстаса де Рибемона ? Любая помощь в расширении статьи будет оценена по достоинству. С уважением, Newm30 ( обсуждение ) 21:10, 7 августа 2019 (UTC) [ ответить ]

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Привет. Есть ли реальный источник, подтверждающий, что Бизинус является отцом Бадерика, Германфрида и Бертар?-- Эндрю Ланкастер ( обсуждение ) 08:41, 18 августа 2019 (UTC) [ ответить ]

Короче говоря: вторичные источники, да; первичные источники, я не знаю.
Для предлагаемого генеалогического древа тюрингенской королевской семьи см. здесь. Ярнут разделяет Бизинуса на две части, делая трех братьев сыновьями мужа Мении, но не Басены. Однако, насколько я могу судить, теория Ярнута не получила широкого распространения, поскольку статья Штойера в том же томе рассматривает всех троих как сыновей (одного) Бизинуса. Я не уверен, есть ли первичный источник, который явно называет отца любого из братьев. Их отец не назван в записях в The Prosopography of the Later Roman Empire . Srnec (обсуждение) 22:06, 18 августа 2019 (UTC) [ ответить ]

Привет, Срнец, эта штука меня мучает :D

Я вполне уверен, что термин Габсбургская империя используется для всех Габсбургских владений в различные периоды. Поскольку статья «Габсбургская монархия» в настоящее время существует (ограничена периодом 1526-1804 гг.), то проблема в том, что «Габсбургская империя» перенаправляет на нее. Я имею в виду, что все книги говорят об империи Габсбургов в отношении ее падения в 1918 году или когда говорят о Максимилиане I или Карле V. Ваше замечание о том, что он также используется как синоним, верно, но в том виде, в котором «Габсбургская монархия» в настоящее время существует, она ограничена по годам и землям (Австрия + Дунайские территории). Может быть, мы можем перенаправить «Габсбургскую империю» на Дом Габсбургов ? Или, может быть, создать новую статью для «Габсбургская империя»? Или, может быть, мне следует изменить Габсбургскую монархию? Я понятия не имею, что делать, но что-то нужно сделать.

Вы можете понять, что я имею в виду, здесь:

https://www.google.com/search?client=ms-android-samsung&biw=360&bih=560&tbm=bks&ei=d6BdXZWoHY-trgSW74XYDA&q=a+history+of+Габсбургской+Империи&oq=a+history+of+the+ Габсбур g+Empire&gs_l=mobile-gws-serp.3...1485.6751.0.7043.33.19.0.11.11.0.247.2614.0j11j4.15.0....0...1c.1j4.64.mobile-gws-serp.. 7.18.1718.3..0j41j30i10k1j33i10k1.0.LApDFOFllr0

Для меня лучшим решением остается страница с разъяснением неоднозначности, в которой говорится, что Габсбургская империя может означать:

1)владения династии Габсбургов

2)Габсбургская монархия

3)Австрийская империя

4)Австро-Венгрия

Возможно, у вас есть другие решения.

Barjimoa ( обсуждение ) 19:36, 21 августа 2019 (UTC) [ ответить ]

Я добавил примечание к статье «Монархия Габсбургов» , чтобы люди понимали, что она ограничена австрийскими землями и исключает испанских Габсбургов. Поскольку единственный раз, когда земли Габсбургов, включая Испанию, были объединены, был при Карле V, мне не кажется важным говорить о такой империи Габсбургов. Испанская и австрийская ветви были разделены. Термин «монархия Габсбургов», похоже, обычно относится к землям австрийской ветви. Это единственные земли после смерти Карла IV. Поэтому мне кажется, что решение примечания к статье самое простое. Оно гласит: эта статья об одной монархии/империи Габсбургов (которая просуществовала дольше всего), а вот другая. Srnec (обсуждение) 02:54, 22 августа 2019 (UTC) [ ответить ]

Ваша правка на этой странице в порядке! Термин Габсбургская монархия действительно относится в основном только к дунайским землям и только с 1283 по 1804 год, когда ее сменила Австрийская империя . Он был создан историками как концепция для поиска государства-предшественника Австрийской империи. Моя проблема в том, что теперь « Габсбургская империя » перенаправляет ТОЛЬКО на «Габсбургская монархия». Но «Габсбургская империя» имеет более широкое значение, широко используемое для империи Карла V и Австро-Венгрии. Поэтому каждый раз, когда в вики есть ссылка на раздел [империи Габсбургов] в 1556 году или крах [империи Габсбургов] в 1918 году, [ссылка] указывает на эту статью.

Я опубликую вам три ссылки по этому поводу, которые специально проведут «разграничение» (в том смысле, что одно является частью другого) между меньшей и более короткой Габсбургско-Дунайской монархией (закончилась в 1804 году и была заменена Австрийской империей) и большей и более длинной Габсбургской империей (разделенной в 1556 году между австрийской и испанской ветвями и закончившейся распадом Австро-Венгрии в 1918 году).

1) https://books.google.it/books?id=se0wDgAAQBAJ&printsec=frontcover&dq=history+of+Habsburg+Empire&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjmgavI75XkAhXPzaQKHdvaB7EQ6AEIWjAH#v=onepage&q=history%20of%20Habsburg%20Empire &f=ложь

2) https://books.google.it/books?id=ffZy5tDjaUkC&pg=PA153&dq=atlas+Habsburg+Empire&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi999Lc8JXkAhXJ4KQKHcZ8D_YQ6AEIKTAA#v=onepage&q=atlas%20Habsburg%20Empire&f=f еще

3) https://books.google.it/books?id=Y2QSBAAAQBAJ&printsec=frontcover&dq=history+of+Habsburg+Empire&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjmgavI75XkAhXPzaQKHdvaB7EQ6AEIPjAD#v=onepage&q=history%20of%20Habsburg%20Empire&f= ложный

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Я не думаю, что эти источники демонстрируют какую-либо разницу между значением двух терминов «Габсбургская монархия» и «Габсбургская империя». Но я думаю, что вижу здесь проблему. Статья «Габсбургская монархия» неверна: этот термин не относится исключительно к периоду 1526–1804 годов. Вовсе нет. Ученые используют его для обозначения Австрии и Австро-Венгрии вплоть до 1918 года, а иногда они используют его и для обозначения земель Габсбургов до 1526 года. Проблема в этой странице. Srnec (обсуждение) 23:50, 22 августа 2019 (UTC) [ ответить ]

Спасибо. Ваше замечание о монархии Габсбургов верно, и это было одним из тех замечаний, которые я высказывал. Чтобы быть еще более точным, Габсбургская монархия уже используется с 1282 года с основаниями Эрбланде (Также спасибо за статью, я писал одну, но ваша лучше с картами и всем остальным). Теперь осталась единственная проблема с империей Габсбургов. Поскольку Габсбургские Нидерланды или Габсбургская Испания были частью империи Габсбургов, и я собираюсь внести некоторые изменения в нее, не вступая в открытые противоречия с вашими правками. Возможно, уточню, что Габсбургская монархия и империя также используются как синонимы. Barjimoa ( talk ) 09:39, 23 августа 2019 (UTC) [ ответить ]

В сентябре Wikiproject Military history проводит общепроектный редактирование-марафон Backlog Banzai . Есть куча разных областей, над которыми вы можете работать, за которые вы получаете очки, а в конце месяца будут вручены всевозможные крутые награды. Каждый игрок выигрывает приз! Для тех, кому нравится что-то подобное, даже есть немного дружеского соревнования. Зарегистрируйтесь сейчас на Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/September 2019 Backlog Banzai, чтобы принять участие. Для координаторов, Peacemaker67 ( нажмите, чтобы поговорить со мной ) 08:18, 22 августа 2019 (UTC) [ ответить ]

Открыт прием заявок на предстоящие выборы координатора проекта. На следующий год будет избрана команда из десяти координаторов. Координаторы проекта являются назначенными контактными лицами по вопросам, касающимся проекта, и отвечают за поддержание нашей внутренней структуры и процессов. Однако они не имеют никаких полномочий относительно содержания статьи или поведения редактора или каких-либо других особых полномочий. Более подробная информация о том, как стать координатором, доступна здесь . Если вы заинтересованы в баллотировании, пожалуйста, зарегистрируйтесь здесь до 23:59 UTC 14 сентября! Голосование начнется только 15 сентября. Если у вас есть какие-либо вопросы, вы можете связаться с любым членом команды координаторов . Ура, Peacemaker67 ( нажмите, чтобы поговорить со мной ) 02:38, 1 сентября 2019 (UTC) [ ответить ]

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Здравствуйте. Помогите скопировать редактирование, статья переведена с [8]. Спасибо. Xuanfgj (обсуждение) 01:06, 10 октября 2019 (UTC) [ ответить ]

Спасибо, Srnec, что указали мне... Я, конечно, полностью не согласен. Это навязывание идеи, что не было сопротивления после капитуляции, и игнорирование правительства в изгнании, а четники (югославская армия в Отечестве) сопротивлялись. Не добавлять Бугарию — это что-то вроде того, что сказать: «О, они капитулировали, и болгары просто вошли во всю Македонию и всю часть Юго-Восточной Сербии», как будто они не были странами Оси (они явно были), и если их военные передвижения в Югославии были оправданы. Я полностью не согласен с интерпретацией peacemaker67, и источники, конечно, не согласны с его точкой зрения, Болгария была страной Оси, и их оккупация территорий в Югославии была частью вторжения Оси, безусловно. Я думаю, что есть искажение событий, просто чтобы навязать идею, что никто не сопротивлялся, когда это явно было так. Тот факт, что монархисты были намного слабее и не могли справиться с вторжением, не делает их странами Оси или несуществующими, как хотелось бы представить. FkpCascais ( обсуждение ) 02:21, 10 октября 2019 (UTC) [ ответить ]

@ FkpCascais : Эта статья посвящена вторжению, которое закончилось «перемирием». Болгария не принимала в этом непосредственного участия. Крзак 2006 — цитируемый в статье — прямо говорит, что «ни румынские, ни болгарские подразделения не принимали непосредственного участия в операции». Болгарские войска вошли в Югославию только 19 апреля. Они были на стороне Оси, но, насколько мне известно, они не встретили организованного сопротивления во время своего «вторжения». У нас нет статьи о болгарской оккупации югославских территорий, хотя у меня есть начало одной в офлайне. Нам нужно разделять разные вещи, и болгарская оккупация — это отдельная вещь от вторжения Оси. Srnec (обсуждение) 03:16, 10 октября 2019 (UTC) [ ответить ]

Они в основном вошли, как только у них была чистая территория, и заняли то, что хотели, и даже совершили преступления против местного населения. Различие между силами, которые участвовали в первоначальном вторжении, и силами, которые заняли куски земли сразу после этого, настолько искусственно. FkpCascais ( talk ) 03:26, 10 октября 2019 (UTC) [ ответить ]

Они были союзниками Оси, которые оккупировали огромные куски югославской земли, не предоставленные им никаким договором или международной конвенцией. Кроме того, они, конечно, не были миротворцами, что было бы единственным оставшимся вариантом, так что... FkpCascais ( talk ) 03:31, 10 октября 2019 (UTC) [ reply ]

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То же, Барджимоа . – Срнец (обсуждение) 21:44, 14 декабря 2019 г. (UTC) [ ответ ]

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Я был удивлен, увидев это - разве не должны были быть перемещены другие вместо этого? Новое имя безнадежно для читателя (не то чтобы в этой статье их было много) и, таким образом, нарушает правила. Johnbod ( talk ) 13:44, 11 января 2020 (UTC) [ ответить ]

Я переместил только два исключения в Category:British Library Syrianac manifestos . Я переместил их, потому что пытался придумать правильное название для British Library, Add MS 12142. Все красные ссылки в List of Syrianac New Testament manifestos также находятся там. Если вы посмотрите на Category:British Library additional manifestos и Category:Coptic New Testament manifestos , например, вы увидите, что у нас много названий, которые довольно непрозрачны: Minuscule 691 , Uncial 0271 , Huntington MS 17 и т. д. Я не возражаю против того, чтобы переместить их в более описательные названия (как, я вижу, вы делаете), но есть много статей за пределами BL Syrianac mss., которые имеют ту же проблему. Должны ли мы переименовать их все или только те, которые являются номерами полок (т. е. оставить Minuscule 691 в покое)? Srnec (обсуждение) 17:42, 11 января 2020 (UTC) [ ответить ]

Я сделал большую часть рукописей на сирийском языке из категории: Британская библиотека , во многих случаях во второй раз , если вы посмотрите на истории - я сделал их несколько лет назад, поэтому я злюсь, когда их возвращают к бесполезным заголовкам. Все это, конечно, работа ужасного пользователя : Лешека Янчука (поскольку он не говорит по-английски, можно говорить, что угодно). По крайней мере, для тех, кто в курсе, Minuscule/Uncial 691 сообщает вам, какой это тип рукописи, чего не скажет "British Library, Add MS 14462". Слишком много работы, чтобы сделать все это правильно, но мы должны, по крайней мере, прекратить ухудшать ситуацию. Johnbod ( talk ) 18:56, 11 января 2020 (UTC) [ ответить ]

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Я был. Я исправил 58 на данный момент, включая большинство из тех, которые должны были указывать на Висконти Пизанского . — Srnec (обсуждение) 19:39, 26 февраля 2020 (UTC) [ ответить ]

Спасибо. С помощью другого редактора теперь все исправлено. Colonies Chris ( обсуждение ) 13:49, 2 марта 2020 (UTC) [ ответить ]

Всем привет, Мартовское безумие 2020 вот-вот начнется, и для тех, кто хочет застрять в бэклоге, маркируя, оценивая, обновляя, добавляя или улучшая ресурсы и создавая статьи, есть много всего интересного. Если вы еще не зарегистрировались для участия, почему бы и нет? Чем больше, тем веселее! Peacemaker67 ( нажмите, чтобы поговорить со мной ) 08:19, 29 февраля 2020 (UTC) для команды координаторов [ ответить ]

Это у вас теперь есть слово, пропущенное в первом предложении. Есть еще несколько мелких вещей, перечисленных здесь, таких как написание "devestating".-- Andrew Lancaster ( talk ) 18:31, 29 февраля 2020 (UTC) [ ответить ]

Hello, I am currently part of a project being done by students at the University of Kent where we are editing and improving the article on the Carolingian Empire. I have been working at trying to fix the Government subsection which almost entirely lacks citations and in doing so have found that much of it is plagiarised from various other sources. I looked into the history of the section and found it was originally created by you in 2007 and has remained largely unchanged since. I was wondering if you are okay with me making large changes to the section and removing all uncited information. I only really have time to make decent improvements upon the Capitals subsection and slightly to the Households subsection but have realised that the Legal systems and Officials subsections need to be removed entirely and rewritten. I would do this but simply do not have the time, how would you feel about the contents being removed of these subsections as their information is not reliable? --CharlieJPerriss (talk) 19:34, 29 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• @CharlieJPerriss: Go ahead.
  As for the Government section at Carolingian Empire, I see that I merged it from Government of the Carolingian Empire in 2016 and that I created that article in 2007. Unfortunately, while I used a good edit summary in 2016, I did not in 2007 (standards were lax then). I created that article by taking material from Charlemagne (see here). That material I originally added when I expanded that article from 15,957 bytes to 48,644 in January 2006 (see here), but with few citations (standards were lax then). I do not believe I plagiarized it. My source may have been Oman's The Dark Ages, which is old but was the only book I had at hand for expanding that article (which I did very quickly because it was way too short). From what source do you think it was plagiarized? Srnec (talk) 20:33, 29 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I found identical sentences in an book Rowena Strittmatter's Our Ancestors: A Journey through the Generations which contains no citations so it’s entirely possible that book plagiarised the wiki page (and it was published in 2016 so I suspect that’s the case) and also an online paper by a guy who I know little about but there are chunks of the article identical to chunks of the paper. Sounds likely these people plagiarised from the wiki article then as neither sources had citations. I’ll refrain from deleting the subsections and finish my draft for the capitals subsection and hope someone comes along and gets some citations on the rest of the gov section. CharlieJPerriss (talk) 13:19, 1 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@CharlieJPerriss: He had NEVER written any articles about the Carolingians. Yet above you accuse him of plagiarizing Wikipedia articles. Please either show just one link of where you saw his work on Carolingians and that paper by him that was supposedly plagiarized or delete that statement of yours. He NEVER did that. Do not accuse people unless you have facts and proof. That was an absolutely baseless and false accusation on your part.Northerneurope (talk) 10:23, 3 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Northerneurope: Archive.org shows that in November last year academia.edu profile had a paper titled 'Carolingian Empire'. It has since been removed and sadly, the Internet Archive does not include a copy of the paper itself. Richard Nevell (talk) 10:44, 4 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@CharlieJPerriss: It was a link, provided below, NOT a paper published. A link titled The Carolingian Empire. If one follows it, then it will take them to the online info resource about The Carolingian Empire. Because it is very useful for people who may be interested in such subject. On that resource site there is a section titled "Licenses and Attributions". Lists a lot of links to Wikipedia. Where they got their material from. They provide article specific Wikipedia links. So they had plagiarized then? In what way? They gave licenses and attributions. And he had not plagiarized anything, by providing a link to them. The link is below.

https://courses.lumenlearning.com/boundless-worldhistory/chapter/the-carolingian-dynasty/

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When you reverted my here regarding the link change to Kingdom of Asturias , I am not sure what you mean with your edit summary "not a justification for changing the terminology everywhere".

After I moved the name from King in the mountain → King asleep in mountain, it is incumbent on me to do post-move clean-up, as per WP:POSTMOVE and change the target link "everywhere". I hope you realize this. And obviously, as I do this, I am changing the "terminology everywhere" to the Stith Thompson standard name as a default. Of course if the article cites a source (or can cite a source) that specifically uses the old phrase, that might be preferred, but I am not running that fact-check on all 50 or whatever instances, as common sense should tell you. --Kiyoweap (talk) 03:06, 12 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Kiyoweap: See WP:NOTBROKEN. Unless "king in the mountain" is an error (and it isn't—it gets more GScholar hits than the new title), then it doesn't need fixing. Also, "king" does not need a capital in running prose. Srnec (talk) 11:36, 12 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Srnec: As per WP:NOTBROKEN "it is perfectly acceptable to change it to Franklin D. Roosevelt if for some reason it is preferred.." Consistency with Thompson's motif-Index is reason enough.

Raw search for a common phrase like "king in the mountain" is not very illuminating. It could be an archaeologist referring to a tomb or castle of "the king in the mountain". And an archaeologist is not usually considered expert opinion on this comparative studies topic (WP:CONTEXTMATTERS).

I performed a contexted search of the phrases that also mention "Barbarossa", and the clear winner was the one I chose. --Kiyoweap (talk) 14:07, 12 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

My apologies. I did in fact misinterpret WP:POSTMOVE, which only required fixing double redirects, and it does state "one should not change inbound links in articles to bypass the redirect".

However, I do have the prerogative to change them anyway, as per the proviso in WP:NOTBROKEN, as already explained.

Now, because of my misinterpretation, I did change three or four instances of piped linked where I shouldn't have as per WP:NOTBROKEN, but it's not worth the bother for me to find them and undoing them now.--Kiyoweap (talk) 16:16, 12 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, think you might have treated two different RGA citations, both by Neumann, as one? [9]. I am also wondering if you noticed me post two quotes about the same section also this evening? They give a slightly different but still compatible version the way I read it [10] (and they are more recent). Not sure if it is worth using them as well just to give some feeling for the possible range of opinions? Anyway, it is good to have your input so my continuing thanks!--Andrew Lancaster (talk) 00:14, 13 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I just added some quick citations from a paper because it was open in my browser from yesterday. I'm sure there is more in Steinacher and Goffart. At some point the names should be listed. The page is not on my watchlist, so I didn't notice the talk page posts. Srnec (talk) 00:49, 13 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The two quotes are from Taylor (an RGA article) and Goffart. I like it that they explain what evidence is available (names). I have a preference for letting our readers know how a position was arrived at, if it is case that the evidence is comprehensible to non-specialists. It often gives a completely different impression as a reader (they were probably Germanic speakers vs. based on their personal names....).--Andrew Lancaster (talk) 08:05, 13 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi. Stop reverting my editations for no reason, I spent a lot of hours doing that (made thousands of edit points), it's a lot of work. There is no reasons to revert any of these, just see talkpages in the Kingdom of Asturias about flag and coat of arms the consencus proved, the flag of Ramiro I and also cross are fine. Then the belligerents of Reconquista are listed there according by the rules and common appearance ("ridiculous" featured by you is questionable). And finally infobox about Castile-Aragon Union I added there, because in many articles are redirections about to the Catholic monarchs. It is evident that if there was an article on the Castile-Aragon Union, it would be exactly the same-duplicate as the Catholic monarchs. Stop vandalize my work and stalking me or I'll have to send report about you. --Dragovit 00:28, 3 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I have plenty of reasons. You don't know what you're doing, for starters. You never edit with citations to reliable sources (because you don't use any). I'll stop reverting you when you stop editing pages on my watchlist. You can report me anytime. Srnec (talk) 22:54, 2 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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		You've made a nice article at Frankish Table of Nations. I was very interested as a reader, and it is very well-structured, allowing it to be quite complete and not dumbed-down. Andrew Lancaster (talk) 08:33, 6 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Hey Srnec, I just reverted this edit. It was a mirepresentation of "He was said by al-Baladhuri to have been another ‘client’, this time attached to the Arab tribe of the Rabi'a." (Muslims of Medieval Italy p:20). Can you put the article on you watchlist? Regards -TheseusHeLl (talk) 21:38, 25 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@TheseusHeLl: It is on my watchlist. That one slipped through because I was unable to check the source when I first saw it and forgot to do so later. Srnec (talk) 21:54, 25 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Greetings - I noticed you are listed as a participant in the Italian military history task force, I'm leaving a message for all participants. I have drafted 3 versions of a navbox covering the Italian resistance 1943-45 which can be seen here (in my sandbox). If you have time, your comments or suggestions on style, content etc, would be welcomed; I've created a section on my talk page. Regards,--Goldsztajn (talk) 10:39, 6 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

It is great that you found a source for the Persian inscriptions relating to Name of the Goths. Unfortunately I can not access that article. I'd be interested to see how the Germani are described.--Andrew Lancaster (talk) 10:35, 7 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Andrew, you can access Sprengling's monograph here. It includes the inscription with the Goths. (What I cited was the editio princeps published during wartime.) He translates Gwt W Grmany xštr (p. 7) as "Goth and German Kingdom" (15). He credits Michael Rostovtzeff with the insight that this refers to the Danubian and Rhenish limites (80). In fact, Sprengling translates Grmanyvs and Grmanya (7) as "Germanic limes" and "Germania" (16), respectively. Srnec (talk) 01:02, 8 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The author seems confident that they were already referring to a Gothic limes. That seems remarkably early? Should we mention that in the Names of the Goths article?--Andrew Lancaster (talk) 07:02, 14 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Andrew Lancaster: That info probably belongs in the Goths article. It is early, but it surely represents the Persians' understanding of the Danubian situation, not the Romans'. If it was Goths that were in the army (and taken prisoner) than that is who the Persians would have associated with the Danube and the land beyond. Note also that the text is in Parthian and Greek, the Persian being illegible in this case. Srnec (talk) 22:44, 14 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Well, I can't put it in that article, but that sounds correct. In terms of whether it is justified it depends on whether that article is a good source and whether they say it clearly. It seems uncontroversial if it meets those criteria. Whether or not there was a Gothic limes, it is already fascinating that they were already so important in the military at this time. It is a reminder of how fragmentary all our information is.--Andrew Lancaster (talk) 05:24, 15 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

This claims source that the murder is Dagobert II is unsolved: https://www.therichest.com/shocking/15-shocking-unsolved-murders-from-history/. Davidgoodheart (talk) 21:45, 8 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

That is not a reliable source for the claim being made. Srnec (talk) 22:10, 8 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hey Srnec, Can you take a look at articles related to Ancient South Arabia (Esimiphaios, Hassan Yuha'min, Dhu Nuwas, Abu Karib, etc). It's full of WP:OR and misrepresentation of sources. Regards -TheseusHeLl (talk) 08:51, 11 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I will take a look. I think I could at least fix Esimiphaios quickly. Srnec (talk) 15:09, 11 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, just checking to see if you're still interested in this -TheseusHeLl (talk) 03:54, 23 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I am working on Esimiphaios, albeit not quickly. Srnec (talk) 23:23, 23 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Why is it 'Basilicas in the Catholic Church' but the main article is 'Basilica'? It seems that the latter has a solid basis, for example Gargoyle and Castle are singular, though WP:SINGULAR says "classes of objects" can be plural. So why are basilicas plural in the Catholic Church but singular otherwise? Elizium23 (talk) 19:48, 13 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

"Basilica in the Catholic Church" is awkward. Basilica is a count noun and the article isn't about just one. Should we move women in the Catholic Church to woman in the Catholic Church? Compare Wolves in folklore, religion and mythology, Insects in literature, Churches in Norway. —Srnec (talk) 00:22, 14 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Srnec, so why not Basilicas? Elizium23 (talk) 00:22, 14 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

WP:SINGULAR, like wolf, insect and church (building). This is a WP convention. See also WP:NATURALDIS. —Srnec (talk) 00:37, 14 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

At the risk of going in circles, I will accept that at face value.

What is your opinion on these titles?

• Altar in the Catholic Church
• Bishop in the Catholic Church
• Parish in the Catholic Church
• Blessing in the Catholic Church Elizium23 (talk) 00:50, 14 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

My opinion is that #2 is wrong (cf. Bishops in the Church of Scotland) and #4 is okay (although blessings would also work). The other two read awkwardly either way and I am not at all surprised to see that they got their present titles through unilateral moves by an editor with a notoriously bad track record at WP:RM. Those moves should be reversed: Altar (Catholicism) and Parish (Catholic Church) are better (although they should be consistent, pick Catholic Church if you must). These are cases where NATURALDIS—which is what "in the Catholic Church" is—doesn't work. Srnec (talk) 00:58, 14 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the ideas. I have enacted WP:RM discussions as you've suggested. Your input is more than welcome. Elizium23 (talk) 01:05, 14 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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There's a reference to Possekel 2018 in there that should be either Possekel 2018a or Possekel 2018b, could you fix it? Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 10:29, 29 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

There's a reference to Lieu 2010 in there without a corresponding citation. Is the year correct, or is a full citation missing? Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 10:30, 29 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi Srnec,How are you? I see you’re the guardian of the Visigoths on Wikipedia. The Visigoths article is very poor on Visigothic architecture and Visigothic goldsmithing, I was thinking of expanding it in the style of Goths, my latest edition according to Andrew Lancaster,What do you think about it?--REKKWINT (talk) 23:41, 29 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

You don't need my permission. You only need WP:RS. Srnec (talk) 23:51, 29 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Srnec: Thank you for appreciating my reversion to Adeimantas .Regarding the book, I think you are right, the point of view is not neutral, maybe it exalts too much the value of the Visigoths when they started the Reconquest with Pelayo or Pelagius,I'm sorry that this has been a problem.

What I tried to do was give a new edition to this Their king, Roderic, and many members of their governing elite were killed, and their kingdom rapidly collapsed. we'd have to keep the paragraph from ending abruptly and sadly with respect to the Visigoths, which we both admire. Not the whole Visigothic kingdom collapsed, Septimania, Asturias, regions around the Pyrenees remained, apart from Theudmir, which is in my opinion a submission to the Muslims. Greetings--REKKWINT (talk) 10:36, 30 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Just a polite thank you for your comments on the ACR of this one. Tbh I took a moribund article, updated it and wondered how far it would go in that state. The answer is clearly to GAR but not much further without serious work. I don't have the time, energy or inclination to give due attention to your valid comments (sorry fot that) so will be stepping back from this article. Someone, sometime maybe will pick this up again. Norfolkbigfish (talk) 15:47, 10 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Srnec, I've added content to visigoths regarding architecture and goldsmithing, I'm asking you to review it and modify it if you don't think it's right.--REKKWINT (talk) 22:00, 11 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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		Hello Srnec! I don't think I've ever given you a barnstar, which is really remiss of me. Thanks for your hard and conscientious work on so many medieval figures, events, and chronicles. It is always a joy to discover them and read them (and often exclaiming "finally someone wrote on this!" and even more often "first time I ever read of this!"). Keep safe, and keep it up! Constantine ✍ 19:06, 11 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, Cplakidas! Glad to see you're back, by the way. Srnec (talk) 19:36, 11 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I'm sure you do know that these titles were decided at RM, given you took part in it. -- Necrothesp (talk) 10:55, 13 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Do you have any evidence that they were referred to as Hugh Hastings I, II and III? -- Necrothesp (talk) 12:52, 13 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, I see you have cited a source. -- Necrothesp (talk) 12:54, 13 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The source I added at Hugh III, for one. I opened an RM where I mention more. Srnec (talk) 12:56, 13 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Hey Srnec, An editor is misrepresenting a source (Genealogy and Knowledge in Muslim Societies: Understanding the Past, Chapter 4: Berber Leadership and Genealogical Legitimacy:The Almoravid Case) in Yusuf Ibn Tashfin and he's pushing a claim that just because some medieval chroniclers and genealogists fabricated this claims, "It's written in his autobiography that he claims descent from Himyar which according Wikipedia guidelines is worthy of being added to the page" (I don't know where he's getting that Ibn Tashfin wrote something about himself). The historian (Helena de Felipe) is just discussing the views of the medieval authors who propagated (or criticized i.e. Ibn Hazm and Ibn Khaldun) this myth and she clearly views it as a myth like all modern secondary sources. If you have time by chance, please can you take a look at these edits. Regards -TheseusHeLl (talk) 01:59, 16 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, any points about this discussion (Yusuf ibn Tashfin biography). I think representing these myths in the article gives them weight. These myths are unanimously rejected by reliable secondary sources. What do you think? -TheseusHeLl (talk) 02:59, 16 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@TheseusHeLl: I take it you think my edit leaves too much? I think if contemporaries used the nisba al-Himyari then it is worth mentioning it and where it comes from. I don't think we need to mention it for any other reason. Perhaps add "Modern scholarship does not support any Berber–Yemeni link." Srnec (talk) 12:31, 16 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hey Srnec, thank you for the changes. Could you check my edit to see if there is anything to add or to remove. -TheseusHeLl (talk) 23:50, 16 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hey Srnec, I would say "preter" means "except" here, so someone was devastating all of Moravia, except the castles and fortified places. Sounds like Mongols I bet! Adam Bishop (talk) 00:14, 20 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Art from the Coptic Diocese of Faras certainly counts as Coptic art. Even now Faras is only just over the border, not to mention under the water. Johnbod (talk) 00:31, 24 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Is all Nubian art then also Coptic art? The Coptic Encyclopedia has a separate article on Nubian church art (incl. Faras), but notes the strong Coptic influence. I would have less of a problem with art from Faras being in the article if it were presented clearly as Nubian, but the article does not mention Nubia. Srnec (talk) 01:18, 24 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Back in December 2017 you made this edit to the article Hunald II. In it you included two short citations:

• Bachrach 2013, pp. 115–22.
• Bachrach 1974, p. 13.

Unfortunatly you only included the 2013 book in the list of long citations. Do you still have the detail of the 1974 volume to hand? -- PBS (talk) 17:11, 25 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Searching on Wikipedia for the short inline citation brought me to the article Waiofar which is a related article and one that you have also edited. In that there is a long citation:

*Bachrach, Bernard (1974). "Military Organization in Aquitaine under the Early Carolingians". Speculum. 49 (1): 1–33. doi:10.2307/2856549. JSTOR 2856549. {{cite journal}}: Invalid |ref=harv (help)

Is that the long citation missing from Hunald II? -- PBS (talk) 17:18, 25 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

It appears to be, yes. That citation is probably held over from the other article, since it is not citing anything Hunald-specific. It isn't really adequate for the first fact, though, since it does not explicitly mention the division on Pippin's death. That first citation [6] can be eliminated, since the following McKitterick citation covers that fact. Thanks, Srnec (talk) 18:19, 25 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your help. I came to the article to improve links to Wikisource using "Cite EB1911". I have no information or knowledge of the people who are subject to the biographies. I just noticed that one of the short citation was not supported by a long one. I have pasted the above citation into the article. You clearly have far more knowledge about the subjects of the Biographies, so any improvements I will leave to you to do. -- PBS (talk) 18:50, 25 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi, Srnec!! How are you?

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Thanks for your job. Greetings! --Estevoaei (talk) 00:30, 4 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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I think the main reason for the misunderstanding in the Kingdom of Arles article is your English perception of the word "Successor" and "Succeeded by". It is possible that the successors of the Kingdom of Arles were the Comtat Venaissin and the Principality of Orange, as you explained in the editing summary, but there is a word "Succeeded by" in the infobox, not "Successors", and as I understand it, the word "Succeeded by" includes all the states that followed him, at least that is the practice in many other articles about former countries. I didn't notice your concept anywhere. Medieval states are completely different from modern states of the 20th century. It's strange that only such two petty states would follow a state as large as Arelat/Burgundy and none of them is the County of Burgundy. It's debatable which "Successors" they are and it will evoke further disputes. I see an analogy in Lower Lotharingia and the Duchy of Swabia, they also disintegrated into many states. So please stick to the established habit. --Dragovit (talk) 08:41, 28 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

But the Kingdom of Arles never "disintegrated" in the way this suggests. Parts of it were gradually annexed by France, Savoy was formally detached from it by Charles IV and finally the whole thing came under de facto French control in 1378, save for the Franche-Comté. France, the Savoyard state, Switzerland: these I suppose are successor states. The county of Burgundy could be added back, too, since it remained with the Empire after the Kingdom of Arles had ceased to be (but unlike Orange and the Venaissin it was never an independent state). I do not see the logic of the longer list you added. Srnec (talk) 17:26, 26 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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I saw that u had created a few articles about foreign military involvements in Vietnam in the 19th century such as the Bombardment of Tourane (1856). I wish u could do research and create an article about the 1845 US bombardment of Da Nang. There are quite few sources for it online, and I found one of those http://www.vvaw.org/about/warhistory.php. 152.133.16.22 (talk) 21:34, 1 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Not really my area, but we do need an article on it so we'll see. Srnec (talk) 04:32, 7 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I noticed you removed ref=harv from Henry Raspe. Is the ref = harv no longer working properly? --Kansas Bear (talk) 04:30, 7 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

My understanding was that it was no longer needed, that it was now default. Srnec (talk) 04:32, 7 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Well, that's nice to know! Thanks. --Kansas Bear (talk) 04:35, 7 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

What! harv is no longer needed!? Is this a new thing? -TheseusHeLl (talk) 05:27, 7 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Greetings, I changed the image of Pelagious' infobox with a painting of Luis de Madrazo y Kuntz, since there is already an image of the Liber testamentorum explaining where Pelayo is represented but it was changed again with a cropped version of an already explained image. The use of paintings can be seen in Alfonso I of Asturias, Fruela I of Asturias, Aurelius of Asturias.
Do you have a specific reason of this re-change? (AlessCastiglione (talk) 14:00, 7 September 2020 (UTC))[reply]

Because a 19th-century imaginary image is useless. It tell us nothing at all about the king. It illustrates nothing. It is pure decoration and all such images are interchangeable. You could plop the Alfonso I one on the Pelagius page and vice versa. It wouldn't matter. At least the Liber testamentorum image comes from an initial that depicts an historical event is part of text about Pelagius. I have restored the images of statues in those articles that were recently changed because I think the statues are less misleading, but I would have no problem with no portrait image at all. Srnec (talk) 15:06, 7 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

A depiction of him 470 years after his death doesn't really illustrate that much even if it depicts an historical event, why would you have a cropped image rather than a quality entire art of a person, both being "useless". Moreover, the page of Jesus Christ (featured and protected) has a Bizantine representation 1300 years after his death, no depiction of any literature event that he appeared; rather than early portraits of him. So why has a cropped and repeated image more weight than a non-historical-illustration for a person with no contemporary art? (AlessCastiglione (talk) 15:42, 7 September 2020 (UTC))[reply]

Why does a 19th-century painting have more weight than a 12th-century one for a person with no contemporary art? I gave you reasons, but you seem to think that the later image must be a kind of default. I would have no problem using the whole manuscript page as the lead image rather than a crop of it, for what it's worth. Srnec (talk) 15:45, 7 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I get your point. But if those reasons doesn't seem to match a featured and protected article about one of the most important people in two milleania, why would they fit in this one? There's more distinction in a painting than in a medieval illustration. Also, why are statues less misleading? People are going to see the medieval depiction on the "Reign" section anyway. (AlessCastiglione (talk) 16:02, 7 September 2020 (UTC))[reply]

But Jesus is different. There is a centuries long tradition of his portrayal. And his portrayal itself is meaningful (in Christianity). There is nothing comparable for Pelagius. There are no great options. I still don't see an argument for the change you made. See WP:OTHERSTUFF. Srnec (talk) 16:23, 7 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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• Jean de Montagu, is the Lucien Merlet source unreliable?

• Biette de Cassinel, is the Tracy Adams & Christine Adams source unreliable?

Feel free to tell me if you consider the other sources in those two articles are reliable or unreliable.

Thanks. --Kansas Bear (talk) 18:04, 17 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Adams & Adams obviously RS. Merlet is old. The key is to check if he is cited by recent RS as a source of information. He is, so he is OK. Srnec (talk) 23:08, 17 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Cool. Thank you very much. --Kansas Bear (talk) 23:19, 17 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Srnec, not sure if you saw my reply on the page to you as it may have gotten lost in a see of text [Here]. Just wanted to makes sure as I think the 2017 version should be an option in the RfC. Even if it means fixing it up a bit which I am willing to help do. Cheers. OyMosby (talk) 00:34, 21 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I think it is too late for that. Best to let it run its course. I tend to agree with Kiengir's latest opinion that the rough consensus seems to be for something like the status quo, perhaps without the footnotes. Nobody other than you has suggested adding more countries to the infobox. Srnec (talk) 02:15, 21 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Fair enough, though Kiengir stated they are fine with either the version I proposed or the current version. Another editor I believe suggested adding other entities as well. So I don’t think I’m alone. But I agree it is late, as people already begun voting. Also sorry for not taking this to the main talk page to begin with. That wasn’t right. Even if I didn’t name drop. Again I apologize for that. It wasn’t right of me. I get frustrated at times a feel ad wits end. But no excuse really. OyMosby (talk) 05:31, 21 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The article cites "Freed 2010" but no such source is listed in bibliography. Can you please add? Or is it a typo and should be "Freed 2016"? Also, suggest installing a script (explained at Category:Harv and Sfn no-target errors) to highlight such errors in the future. Thanks, Renata (talk) 03:59, 24 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

This is not how it should be looking like. 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 15:39, 27 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Better than the other way. But yes that side template is too long for most articles. Srnec (talk) 22:11, 27 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I disagree. This is less wasted space. 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 12:50, 24 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Your new solution seems fine. Thanks. 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 12:50, 5 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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I appreciate your effort to create Syriac Orthodox Archbishop of Jerusalem, The presidency of Jerusalem bishop is Archbishop, the church website is proved that, the other fact is St. Magdalene Church is not established church of Syrian Church, John of Würzburg(1160) Description of the Holy Land states that. Palmer (1991) link is not available in Article Eldhose ^Talk 03:25, 23 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Syriac Orthodox Church is not acquired St. Mark Monastery from coptic, Barsoum (2003), p. 566 says Mark the Evangelist and the virgin Monastery both located in Jerusalem, St. Mark is known as the monastery of Syrians, but article wrongly makes. Eldhose ^Talk 04:11, 23 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I am disagree with about St. Magdalene church My fact is the site was the house of Simon the Leper, who invited Jesus to supper(with in of John of Wurzburg (1160-1170 AD)) But they argue that the temple was founded in the fifth century.

And also, Iam added about history, Patriarch name used(yet didn't have patriarchal rank), Bishop name, split of chalcedon and non chalcedon in jerusalem church(With the help of Theodosius of Jerusalem Article) and their patriarch's, Jerusalem church in early centuries,List of Churches... etc.

The point of St. Mark Monastey is that the evidence and explanation they gave did not match, so they believed it was a false story, and then another evidence was discovered and completed.

Don't forget to include these things. So don't revert and Correct the mistakes as much as you can. Thank you. Eldhose ^Talk 03:43, 27 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Please provide citations that back your claim that the Tripartite Pact did not create the Axis, nor lead to the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor, which did not lead the USA to join the war with the Allies?... - Aboudaqn (talk) 20:06, 24 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

You need to provide citations, not me. But see Talk:Axis_powers#The_Tripartite_Pact_=/=_The_Axis and the section preceding it for a discussion of the Tripartite vs Axis issue. Srnec (talk) 00:37, 25 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi Srnec, you recently moved the page Shahi, making it into a disambiguation page. As a result, over 60 pages now link to a disambiguation page (Special:WhatLinksHere/Shahi), which is of course not intended. Are you aware of this? It would be good to fix these links soon! Lennart97 (talk) 00:43, 12 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I fixed some. It had redirected to shah, which does not use the word or discuss the Shahi dynasties. So the links were always wrong. I may fix more. Srnec (talk) 03:20, 12 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your reply! I didn't realise they were already wrong. I'll see if I can fix some too. Lennart97 (talk) 18:02, 12 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Hello I have seen you have deleted one of my recent Edits. And no it’s not vandalism. Barbaria stretched from Aswan (south eygpt) to Malao (Somali land) it also contained South Eritrea and Djibouti. All of the people that live in the area are identified as indigenous cushites. Such as Oromo,Somali,Afar,Harla,Beja. The periplus mentions them as Former Nubas and the Greeks used two terms Barbarians and Aethiopian Aethipian was a term used by Greeks to describe Nubas (cushites). Alwaqidi notes that the Dominant Group were Hamites and if we went further he called them cushites that would Inhabit Eastetn Ethiopia Northern Somalia and Djibouti. And these peoples would have been Proto cushites not the cushites we know as today 😊 Thanks. TBftf (talk) 10:00, 21 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Proto-Cushitic ≠ Cushitic

In any case, please do not add original research like you did when you wrote "We can confirm this is Wrong..." Srnec (talk) 15:57, 21 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Why are you redlinking "Fragmenta Vaticana" on Aufidia (gens)? It's not clear to me which Vatican fragment it's referring to, since the only one I have in my database is from Diodorus Siculus, who's two centuries too early to have anything to say about the person for whom this is cited. But even if we figured it out, it's highly unlikely ever to link to anything with this title; if it were Diodorus Siculus, for example, he'd be the one linked, not "Fragmenta Vaticana", which would merely describe which part of Diodorus Siculus it's in. This might be a reference to a fragment of Cassius Dio—I have a note with him in my database mentioning the "Fragmenta Peiresciana", so there may be other fragments. But either way, I don't see the point in redlinking these words, since they'll probably never link to anything. P Aculeius (talk) 15:03, 28 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@P Aculeius: See Fragmenta Vaticana. Not a redlink anymore. I am aware of the Diodorus fragments—I did not add redlinks where those fragments were intended—but I took "Fragmenta Vaticana" to be clear enough as a proper name for the legal palimpsest because an article under that title appears in Wiley's Encyclopedia of Ancient History and in Brill's New Pauly. The old Pauly has it under "Fragmenta iuris Vaticana", which I suppose could be the title if you think the current title is too unclear. The German and Italian Wikis, however, use the simple two-word title, while the French uses "Fragmenta juris Romani Vaticana". Srnec (talk) 16:34, 28 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Aha! Well, that clears up the mystery of what this refers to. I was under the impression that it was a historical work—although I didn't see Aufidius mentioned in the likely chapter of Cassius Dio. There may be several fragmenta Vaticana, but I'm sure your hatnote is sufficient to send people to the one from Diodorus Siculus, and if others turn up under that title, they can be dealt with as needed. Sorry for the confusion! P Aculeius (talk) 16:46, 28 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Srnec, I've seen some of your work, Very good stuff. I also see that you have some interest in articles Chronicle of Pseudo-Joshua the Stylite and Euphemia and the Goth. If you like, I can move them, and suppress the redirects so that you can recreate the articles your own way. I have no more interest in them, and I can't imagine myself expanding them either. You're a better editor than me, so your versions would most likely be way better than the current versions I made. Interested? Jerm (talk) 20:27, 28 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Jerm, thanks for the kind words. No need to do that, however. I can just edit them where they are. No pressure this way. Srnec (talk) 02:37, 29 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Srnec--I'm getting pressure to cut this article into pieces (which I have now done twice), which isn't as easy as it looks. At any rate, I could use your help in chiming in. Someone went so far as to actually split the article (badly) yesterday and rename it to something that it isn't. I reversed it, but am tired of wasting my time dealing with this. So whatever you can do would be appreciated. Dr. Grampinator (talk) 18:21, 29 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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I don’t believe we ever edit warred. Why did you say you knew that I wouldn’t come to the talk page and follow BPD in good faith? I began writing the same time you did but you beat me to the punch. So to speak. Are we on bad terms from the past or something? If I did anything in the past that upset or insulted you I apologize. I’m not looking to make enemies but allies in making Wikipedia better.OyMosby (talk) 02:04, 5 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I knew you would violate BRD because you've done it before on that same page. On 25–26 Nov you were bold, got reverted and just reverted again. The same cycle repeated on 28–29 Nov. You should know that the current wording of "Armistice and surrender" has two sentence fragments masquerading as sentences. Srnec (talk) 04:50, 5 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I did not violate BRD this time so please enough. I went to the talk page right after I reverted. You know that and the diffs prove it. Why this hostility? I’m not pulling tricks. But surely you can see starting the conversation like that was uncalled for as it just leads to antagonization and had it been some of the other editors it would have exploded. I want to work with not against.

Are you saying the wording is still bad? As I said I made the mistake of not proofreading the whole flow. Editing on my phone in spare time on the go. I went to the talk page after my revert as you can see we were writing at the same time. I also engaged on the talk page in November after my “bold” edits that turned out to have some validity in multiple ethnicities.

I edit warred which was hot headed and dumb of me. But it was not just me partaking in the edit war. And the other editor had vested interest in only having Croats originally until Peacemaker slammed the Tomasevich book on the table as I tried. Another editor tried in the past to fix the issue but only to be met with no answers. You however were cordial in the talk on November and I respected and appreciated that.

Again I apologize for past behavior. I was reverted with no explanation while I was following the sources. It was multi ethnic. But after I reverted I went to the talk page to ask and explain what the problem was, hence not completely BRD violation but I get your point and cynicism. And look I said I apologize for hot headed behavior of the past. I should know better but my nerves get the best of me sometimes which is no excuse.

I am trying to reach out an olive branch again to you Srnec. Can we be on good terms this point on? I don’t hold grudges as I already forgot November. And surely you can see my edits are meant in good faith. Using RS to back edits, trying to improve. I don’t mean to cause you problems or waste your time. Also, side question, is Srnec a slavic name or have a specific meaning? OyMosby (talk) 05:44, 5 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Srnec is indeed a Croatian name, as in Aleksandar Srnec (no known relation). Srnec (talk) 00:35, 12 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Hello Srnec, can you please help in writing articles about Khayran as-Saqlabí (Q3816411), Zuhayr as-Saqlabí (Q3816351) and Sunqur al-Ashqar (Q13141797). Any initiative would be much appreciated. 211.105.112.181 (talk) 22:42, 9 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I will look into it. Srnec (talk) 00:35, 12 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Is there some reason why you keep reverting me without leaving an explanation? I'm trying to clear out the backlog at Category:Biography articles without listas parameter and usually nobody gives me any trouble about it. LEPRICAVARK (talk) 13:42, 11 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

You figured it out. He should be listed by Audric, not Vilar. I do not understand why we need a listas parameter here. Srnec (talk) 00:35, 12 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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What do you think? Moses and his Ethiopian wife Zipporah. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 19:38, 21 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Nicely done! It was the McGrath paper that I found in my bookmarks that made me think it could use an article. Only question I have is, is the name Zipporah usually associated with the artwork? I have always thought the Midianite Zipporah and the Kushite wife were obviously different women, but I know that was probably not the dominant interpretation when Jordaens painted it. Srnec (talk) 00:08, 22 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Good and relevant point. I assumed that the title given at [11] etc was more or less original, but now I checked McGrath's cite #4, and this seems far from certain. Some rewriting is in order. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 08:44, 22 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Congratulations, Srnec! I only noticed that you'd just won this award by coincidence, but I've seen your name around quite a lot and it's clear to me that you've done a lot of work on Wikipedia. Thankyou and well done! Alarichall (talk) 17:23, 6 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you! Much appreciated. Srnec (talk) 00:05, 7 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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You're welcome, Srnec. This one was very well deserved! Krakkos (talk) 08:38, 7 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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You added "According to the Aztecs" about 5 years ago. I have never really paid much attention to the article and only after someone complained on its talk page today saying " there isnt even academic concensus if the toltec empire existed, let alone some of the wacky borders this article insinuates. tbh, i would in favor of just blowing this thing up and starting over." Are you interested? I have little time myself but will mention this at a couple of Wikiprojects. Doug Weller talk 10:38, 13 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Here is a good place to start. I would probably model our article off of that to start. I suspect that a lot of material could be moved to Tula (Mesoamerican site). Srnec (talk) 21:00, 13 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks but the pdf wasn't there. Doug Weller talk 17:18, 15 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Try this or this. It's Mike Smith's article in Wiley's Encyclopedia of Empire. Srnec (talk) 18:33, 15 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Many thanks. Peters01 (talk) 20:36, 24 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Below the editing window is a scroll-down menu that by default says "Insert". Click it and select "Arabic". There is a set of symbols commonly used in transliteration there, including the half-rings for hamza and ayin. That is where I get it. Srnec (talk) 01:20, 25 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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hello, you deleted my article on Fraxinetum, what is the reason? Sarazxs123 (talk) 05:11, 18 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Sarazxs123: See the article talk page. Srnec (talk) 23:10, 18 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Dear Srnec, I have started an RfC on the article Goths that may be of interest to you, see Talk:Goths#RfC.--Berig (talk) 21:00, 31 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I am only curious about one comment here. Is it really not asking a bit much that either a person who lived in 6th Italy had enough geographic knowledge of northern Scandinavia to know that it was connected to the mainland and not really an island, or he was unreliable?--Berig (talk) 17:52, 2 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Berig: I think it goes back to where he got his information. If the Goths once lived in Scandinavia, do you think they thought it was an island then? Do you think their oral traditions called it an island? There's no question that Jordanes is not completely reliable. A geographical imprecision does not render his whole account worthless, but I don't think we should just slide over it either. Especially since the page as it stands cites Jordanes several times but never gives any reasons for distrusting him, beyond admitting that some scholars don't. Srnec (talk) 15:25, 3 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Of course, he is not completely reliable. Who is? IMO, the Getica is a horrible mish-mash of different traditions. What I react to is using the reference to Scandinavia as an "island" to make the point that he is unreliable. If I refer to e.g. Orel's "A Handbook of Germanic Etymology" 2003:4 (I could refer to several here) he says *aʒwjō or *axwjō meaning "island" is behind -avia in Scandinavia so the Germanic understanding of Scandinavia as an "island" remains in its very name. Add to this the fact that the Germanic concept of "island" was not the modern cartographic concept that we are used to today. The root *aʒwjō or *axwjō remains in names for places that have never been islands because the Germanic concept of "island" was vague and could also refer to "land next to water" as in Oium (see also Orel 2003:4).--Berig (talk) 17:11, 3 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

But the article doesn't make any points per se. It just accurately describes Scandza as Jordanes describes it. Other than citing scholars disputing Jordanes' accuracy, the article nowhere has anything specific to say about any error in his work. All it does is leave the gloss "(Scandinavia)" after "island of Scandza". We could go a lot further than this exposing Jordanes as a mish-mash! And your etymology even offers a possible avenue for enhancing Jordanes' reliability. As I suggested in the RFC, I think expanding material on the origins of the Goths in another article is the best way forward. There is lots to say pro and con the various positions and it would be helpful to interested readers to lay it out. Srnec (talk) 20:11, 4 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Srnec recently it appears that you constantly keep deleteing sourced info on the Barbaria article and I just want to recommend that you use the Talk page before you make any edits. I would like to see what you would have to say about this situation since I haven’t had the chance to ask you. Cheers Rashicy (talk) 03:43, 7 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Srnec it seems that you have returned the Mora article to the draft space not even 24 hours before it was published. You said that the article wasn’t well sourced and I want to know how and why, the reviewing administrator said otherwise, and it makes me confused, this article is well referenced and I provided at least one source for each paragraph. I don’t see what’s wrong hope you can respond soon..... Rashicy (talk) 03:50, 7 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Srnec, draftifying that was definitely the right call. I would have done that last night, but it was a bit too late at night for me. @Rashicy: It is not a lack of sources as such, but the sources are impossible to track down and verify because the references don't tell us enough about the sources. In future, you should submit your drafts for review through the AfC process (see WP:AFC) and not simply ask an editor to review it for you. --bonadea contributions talk 07:10, 7 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I understand what you mean, the references didn’t have that much info, I Did this so it would be more simple for example one of the sourcers I used was Pankhurst Ethiopian borderlands essays, I just noted Pankhurst 43 because many people are familiar with the Borderlands essays and it was one of his most populast books . I hope you can see where I’m coming from Rashicy (talk) 07:19, 7 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi Srnec hope your doing well, it has came to my attention that you have nominated my article Mora for a speedy deletion and I have since contested your request. You went on to delete my article the Muzzafarid dynasty and replaced with redirect article. Please remove your edits and return the article, this is not helping at all, you continued to remove the heading of the Muzzafarid article to Muzzafarid (Somalia). Please refrain from vadanlsing articles and following me, hope you find this: Rashicy (talk) 00:55, 15 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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@Rashicy: You cannot just title articles whatever you like. You appear to have made up the term "Muzzafarid Empire". I fixed it. You also can't write multiple articles on the same topic, hence the disappearance of Mora Kingdom and Muzaffer dynasty. If you don't want your articles edited by others, don't edit Wikipedia. Srnec (talk) 01:03, 15 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I never said I don’t want people editing articles I have created so please don’t assume. You however keep on reverting my edits without listening. The Muzzafarid Empire was a Empire at its zenith it expanded from Mogadishu to Sofala. Muktar Haji notes it was a Empire. I created a second version of the Mora article because you declined it so I made more improvements. I never asked for all this trouble you brought it, the first version of the Mora article should be deleted I agree but somehow after it was declined another admin reviewed it and accepted it. You continued to delete my article Muzzafarid dynasty for no such reason. Please refrain from what you’re doing. @Srnec: Rashicy (talk) 01:09, 15 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Their are multiple articles that focus on the sale topic such as the Galluweger dynasty,Ajuran Empire and many others. Please bring back the Muzzafar dynasty article Rashicy (talk) 01:15, 15 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Srnec, I am requesting to have an article created by you. Would you be willing to? Thanks. Jerm (talk) 01:55, 15 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

What is it? Srnec (talk) 03:02, 15 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The Second Apocalypse of John. Jerm (talk) 03:13, 15 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I'll look into it. You've written this type of article before. Any reason you don't want to do this one? Srnec (talk) 02:43, 16 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I could only find one source that discusses the text:[13], but I didn't like the way the source presented the information. To me, the source looked like clutter, and it just felt overwhelming reading it. Jerm (talk) 23:09, 16 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

OK. I will see what I can do. Srnec (talk) 00:08, 17 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Started. I will add some more tomorrow, since I have not finished Court's chapter. Srnec (talk) 03:22, 20 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, it looks good. Didn’t know there was a third apocalypse. I wonder if there’s a fourth one. Jerm (talk) 15:11, 21 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Not sure if you still have this material handy any more, but a decade-plus back you did a major expansion of the article now entitled Imperator totius Hispaniae that included a statement about Ramiro II citing Garcia Gallo, ""Although he apparently avoided the imperial style himself, his subjects and his successor did not." In something I just came across by Justiniano Rodriguez, he says: "Con análoga estimación imperial se designa a Ramiro II «dominante populo christianorum in fide católica», «rex imperadori», «gloriosi orthodoxi políente regimine», «rex Hispanice» y otrs expresiones análogas, como «sub imperio dominissimi régis Ranimiri»."(all these are cited to primary documents: p. 162 here) Was Garcia Gallo splitting hairs and dismissing these as near-misses or by 'his subjects' and not Ramiro directly? or has Rodriguez simply found more material than Garcia Gallo was aware of? Without knowing exactly what Garcia Gallo's perspective was, I am not sure how to incorporate the Rodriguez material (if at all). Agricolae (talk) 07:53, 15 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I found a print copy quite easily, but (oddly) it lacks the endnotes. Here is what he says on p. 204: De Ramiro II no se conserva ningún documento real en que él utilice el título de emperador. Pero se conoce uno, de 940, en el que en la fecha se alude con ese dictado: "Regnante domino et mperatore nostro". En otro, del 952, referente a Ordoño III, que luego se citará, éste se llama "prolis domini Ranimiri imperatoris". Otras veces, en la fecha de documentos privados, se le designa como rex magnus: en el 930, "regnante Ranimiro principe et regis magni in Legione". De igual forma aluden a él las genealogías que acompañan a la Crónica Najerense: "Ranimirus rex Magnus". Srnec (talk) 22:52, 15 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for this. Rodriguez has material Garcia Gallo seemingly was unaware of, but because he does not provide further context beyond the titular phases themselves, it is impossible to tell without tracking them all down individually whether these fall under Garcia Gallo's 'used by others but not by himself' framework. Not sure how best to address this. Agricolae (talk) 14:52, 16 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Hey Srnec hope your doing well. I just want to ask what is your goal, You keep in reverting my edits and deleting articles I’ve created, why are you targeting me if I did something wrong I’m sorry but please stop. @Srnec: Rashicy (talk) 04:27, 18 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

My goal is to make the encyclopedia better. To put it bluntly, your articles are not very good. You created no less than three identical articles on the so-called 'Mora kingdom'—two in articlespace plus a draft. So we have an article titled Kingdom of Mora and not a single source uses that term. You made it up. Your citations are so incomplete that it's almost impossible to check. I believe you overinterpret them and give them a 'spin' of your own, SYNTHing where necessary. If you think this situation can last, you are mistaken. Srnec (talk) 04:53, 18 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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I’ve reviewed the nomination - all fine, but have just left a query in the review for you to look at before giving it the final tick. DeCausa (talk) 09:10, 9 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I promoted Second Apocalypse of John to prep area 1, but I removed Last Judgment from the hook because that isn't in the article. I can re-add it to the hook once it's added to the article. SL93 (talk) 19:56, 9 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@SL93: Done. Srnec (talk) 20:07, 9 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. I added it back. SL93 (talk) 20:10, 9 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Is the misspelled word "apperance" in the original quote? In the same paragraph with the correct spelling "appearance"? Shenme (talk) 02:10, 12 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Seems a typo: correct seen at [14] Shenme (talk) 02:19, 12 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Hello! As you may see, I tried to make List of colonial governors of Ruanda-Urundi look like List of colonial governors of the Congo Free State and Belgian Congo as much as possible. I did it for the sake of consistency, among other reasons, as the two articles are quite connected with each other. If you find anything that you think should be changed/remodeled, please feel free to do it; any help would be appreciated. Also, help would be needed on the issue of references for the Ruanda-Urundi article. —Sundostund (talk) 07:10, 27 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

What is your opinion of these sources added to Walter III of Châtillon?

• Du Chesne, André (1621). Histoire de la maison de Chastillon sur Marne.
• Despréaux, Simien (1824). Histoire de la maison Chastillon-Chastillon. Paris: Goujon et Larnault.
• d'Arbois de Jubainville, Henri (1865). Histoire des ducs et comtes de Champagne, tomes 4a et 4b. Paris: Librairie Auguste Durand.
• Rémy, Ange (1881). Histoire de Châtillon-sur-Marne. Reims: Imprimerie E. Bugg, successeur de A. Lagarde.
• Petit, Ernest (1889). Histoire des ducs de Bourgogne de la race capétienne, tome 3. Dijon: Imprimerie Darantière.

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@Kansas Bear: They are all old. Not necessarily unreliable, but not prima facie reliable either. The test would be: do modern sources still cite them as reliable for basic facts. If so, then I would accept them for basic facts, since it is not necessarily the case that there are more modern sources that go into the same depth on each member of the House of Châtillon. I can't say off the top of my head if I have ever used these sources, but I would not use Du Chesne (just too old). Still, more recent sources would always be preferable where available. At Walter III, the newer source should be restored without necessarily deleting the information in the article. Srnec (talk) 18:45, 29 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Well, two of the Remy citations did not support the sentence they referenced, so I removed them and the Foundation sources. I re-added the Pollock sources, but I am unable to access some of those sources to verify they support the sentences in question. --Kansas Bear (talk) 18:57, 29 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I added a template for Siege of Smyrna. Why you reverted my edit?KaradumanMareşal (talk) 19:03, 29 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Because not every article needs an infobox and I don't think this one benefits from it. You can explain on the talk page why you think it improves the article. Srnec (talk) 03:09, 30 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The name "Kingdom of Arles" is anachronistic until the 12th century. The name of that kingdom before the 12th century was Kingdom of Burgundy. Boubloub

But not "Kingdom of Burgundy-Arles". Smooshing together the two names does not create a less anachronistic name. Moreover, redirects do not need fixing. If you feel strongly, go thru WP:RM. Srnec (talk) 00:31, 31 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

WP:RM does encourage moves to a better title. I believe Burgundy-Arles best encapsulates the complexity of the case. In any event it cannot be Arles alone, since that name only appeared late. By contrast, the name Kingdom of Burgundy remained valid (alongside Arles) after the 12th century. I have now changed to "Kingdom of Burgundy (from 933)" which is clunkier but clearly not anachronistic.

When an entity changes names over time, we do not create separate articles just because of name changes. And since an article can only have one title, we have to choose. Thus, we choose Kingdom of Navarre, although before the 12th century it was Kingdom of Pamplona. We choose Holy Roman Empire, although that term also only originates in the 12th century. Terms like Carolingian Empire and Byzantine Empire are totally anachronistic. In this case, I think Kingdom of Arles is the most elegant solution. Any attempt to use Kingdom of Burgundy will be clunky. We could perhaps split up the article into two: Kingdom of Burgundy (933–1032) and Kingdom of Burgundy (Holy Roman Empire). The latter would parallel the Italian article. What do you think? I'm inclined to think that Kingdom of Arles is still the most elegant solution. Srnec (talk) 01:19, 31 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Your proposed solution of splitting between pre- and post-1032 strikes me as sensible, even though a simple renaming would work as well in my opinion. Arles was not the capital of the kingdom during much of its period of historical relevance, thus not elegant - I don't know of historians (with the possible exception of German ones) who refer to the pre-12th-century polity as Arles.

There are a fair number of references to the Kingdom of Arles in 933 or 1032 ([15][16]). Either a split or a rename ought to be discussed on the article talk page. Srnec (talk) 23:12, 31 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I suggest you notify the article talk page of the move review discussion/request. SPECIFICO talk 09:11, 1 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Your frustrations are very understandable but FWIW, here is how I see the recent RFCs on Goths:

• Berig asked 17:20, 31 March 2021 if we should focus less on "controversial origin stories like Jordanes' Getica", and more on "archaeological, linguistic and contemporaneous historical evidence". The closer felt there was a "clear and strong preference for secondary sources and modern scholarship" but this does not really help much. NOTE: More importantly although you voted "No", everyone reads your posts as "no" to any implication of the article needing MORE, and an argument that Goths should not handle the main discussion of Gothic origins, which means this whole discussion should be reduced. Your remarks got a lot of positive feedback in this and other RFCs which closers also noted, and have become a main theme of agreement...
• I asked 08:03, 1 April 2021 whether the article "should primarily focus upon the Goths described by Roman historians from the third century". Again we got a diversion to a "clear (in fact, nearly unanimous) consensus in the discussion below that the article should focus on Goths as described in modern scholarship" which did not help much. However, there was once again a lot of discussion about your idea.
• Krakkos, citing the previous two RFCs, made a draft, "in which the Prehistory, Early history and Movement towards the Black Sea sections are simplified and merged into a single Origins and early history section". The closer noted "there is a clear consensus to substantially trim these sections. The specific text proposed, however, has drawn significant objections and a consensus to implement it as-is is not apparent in this discussion." It should be noted that this was a strange RFC because Krakkos presented several different new drafts during discussion. In your rejection of the last version you stated that the shortened version should be "more straightforward (and even shorter)".
• So the new RFC I started actually goes back to your original post in a sense, because it created a consensus. It is a new draft trying to match your suggestions, which seem to me to have clear backing from other editors. The summary is shorter, and it tries to be more balanced and neutral.
• I have been guessing that either you just misunderstood the direction the discussion went (which is very much based on your ideas) or perhaps you are concerned with some specific side issue, such as the question of which should be the main article or articles. Currently we have Origin stories of the Goths, Wielbark culture, Chernyakhov culture and Gutones. And I questioned your idea that we need a new one. But, to be clear, I am open to the new article idea also. I just see it as a separate (and less difficult) discussion?

I feel you are a key voice of reason on that article's talk page and I think you put your finger on the best way forward. Clearly a lot of people agree.--Andrew Lancaster (talk) 08:38, 5 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Any chance that I can successfully beg you to have a bit of a look at the proposed draft, and give whatever feedback you deem appropriate? You commented on the previous draft of Krakkos, and the talk page certainly has not rushed since then because the RFC template even expired now.--Andrew Lancaster (talk) 13:07, 7 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, Andrew Lancaster, but I have lost all interest in that page at this time.

As an aside, if you are a Wikiquote editor, you may want to see this. Srnec (talk) 03:05, 12 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

That's disappointing (both topics). You gained substantial support for your idea on Goths, you gave feedback on the drafts of others which were supposedly based on your proposal, and now I've done the work of trying to make something more truly based on your idea, and the aspects others found attractive. IMHO it would have been an important step forward, and it is IMHO now ready to go. Honestly, it is the worst possible moment to pull out, and not even look at the draft. Concerning Wikiquotes I don't look at it often, but this work is similar to the hit pieces about living academics found all over Wikipedia, and written by the same editor. Am I the only editor willing to work on that type of problem? I can do very little on my own. It seems good editors such as yourself tend to keep away from stuff when it becomes awkward, but the result is that awkward stuff becomes more common.--Andrew Lancaster (talk) 08:31, 12 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi. Sorry to bother you but would be interested in your view. I've BOLDly moved Ælfsige (bishop of St Cuthbert) to Ælfsige (Bishop of Lindisfarne) because the Bishop of St Cuthbert bit sounded wrong. However, reflecting on it and the page history and looking at some other titles, I wonder if I should have really moved it to Ælfsige (bishop of Lindisfarne), especially given that you had already moved it from capped to l/c here. Is there MOS or convention on this Bishop of Muswell Hill vs bishop of Muswell Hill thing? I would be happy to comply if I understood what was going on! Please advise. With thanks and best wishes DBaK (talk) 17:04, 9 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

DisillusionedBitterAndKnackered, yes, per MOS:JOBTITLES and all other similar articles, the "bishop" should be lower case. Elizium23 (talk) 17:53, 9 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Elizium is right. Go lower case, same as you would if you used generic "the bishop of Lindisfarne" in a sentence. Srnec (talk) 00:08, 10 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Well, this is depressing: I'm sorry, it looks like I have been pretty stupid, and I've since seen evidence – minor so far – that the Bishop of St Cuthbert bit might have been less wrong than I had thought. So I am kind of wishing I had left well alone! Anyway, I have for now moved it to the l/c bishop, despite my confused/elderly feeling of Not Quite Getting Why™ and if I can ever motivate myself to it I will start on its Talk page about the title ... or I may just slink off and pretend I was never there and hope that someone less clueless than me will intervene. Gah! I am just reminding myself about the favoured surfacing material for the Road To Hell. Sorry, best to all, thanks Srnec and Elizium23, cheers DBaK (talk) 08:26, 10 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks: after messing around with Florian theory of Shakespeare authorship it's nice to see an editor doing the thing that we're supposed to be doing. BTW I got your ping because I wrote up Ian N. Wood a long time ago--I guess that article needs updating. I don't think I ever met him, but I think I met Fred Orton at some conference on the Bewcastle Cross; time is running out and every other week I open my email to find a scholar whose work I studied has died. The most recent one was Janneke Raaijmakers--but she was taken long, long before her time. Thanks again. Drmies (talk) 00:18, 21 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Given how challenging it can be to really find solid biographical referencing about people from 900 years ago at the best of times, do you really think it's possible to draw an absolutely clean and unambiguous distinction between Arab-by-ethnicity and Arabic-by-language in that period? Sure, in the 21st century it's very possible for a person to be one but not the other — but how likely do you think it is that we could consistently and reliably reference a very sharp and indisputable distinction for people who lived in the 1100s? Bearcat (talk) 00:51, 24 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Bearcat: Well, it is easy to know if a poet wrote in Arabic unless their poetry is entirely lost. Even then, the least we probably know is the language of it. As for ethnicity, it is a bit more complicated. For example, the poet in question here had a Black African mother and was quite dark-skinned, but his father was an Arab (meaning, had an Arab tribal genealogy) and therefore so too was his son. Given the propensity of Arabic sources for genealogy 900 years ago, I think it is actually pretty normal to know if someone was or could claim to be an Arab (i.e., belong to a tribe). Arab identity has gotten murkier with time, not clearer. As an side, there is a genre of literature from that time, Shu'ubiyya, that is entirely non-Arabs writing in Arabic about "Arab privilege". Srnec (talk) 01:12, 24 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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I have gone ahead and started a new article: Origin of the Goths. I hope it helps future discussion and work on this topic. At this stage I have not tried to combine this with Origin stories of the Goths, as I think you proposed, and this is partly based on my reading of the frustrated remarks of various other editors about Jordanes. However this new article will probably need a bit extra information about Jordanes. I just need to think about to do it without distracting from modern scholarship, while still making it clear that he influences modern scholarship.--Andrew Lancaster (talk) 10:39, 29 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I think it would be better to merge this right away with "Origin stories", especially since there is really only one origin story (Jordanes'). Calling the Goths Getae does not really count as a "story". While I support a separate article, I am not really sure consensus at Talk:Goths does. Still, if nobody else is interested in talking... perhaps you should ask the admin who imposed restrictions on you and Krakkos to lift or lighten them. Myself, I just don't really know what the community wants. There is no consensus version of early Gothic history. Srnec (talk) 22:38, 29 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Correct, and so we should report that there is no consensus? That your proposal to trim the Origins sections and move detailed discussion elsewhere created a new consensus was accepted by Krakkos and the closing admin for the RFC where you mentioned it. Krakkos has already proposed three drafts for the new trimmed version. (So my new draft, draft number 4, should be understood in that context. Would still be great if you looked at it.)

At first sight, I disagree with your idea to move quickly to a merge, although I am open to more discussion on that idea. I personally feel there are two separable topics, and editors want them separated. I'd like to give this approach a real try. Also, Jordanes was not the only classical account, so that merge could swamp discussion of the others. Instead, both articles can best be expanded I think.

A practical reason that this separation seems important, looking at discussions on Goths, is that the RFCs showed that some editors feel strongly that we need to distinguish what modern scholars think, from the totality of what Jordanes wrote. It seems they feel that when there is a lot of information about the unreliability of Jordanes, it gives a supposedly false impression that there is no other type of evidence which supposedly confirms parts of what he said in some way. So this new article focuses not so much on the details of everything Jordanes wrote, but, to use the WP term, his continuing "legacy" and the aspects of his narrative which still form the working assumptions of some Scandinavian linguists, some archaeologists, etc. It is relatively distinct from the topic of what he really wrote I think?--Andrew Lancaster (talk) 08:31, 30 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

What accounts besides Jordanes do you have in mind? Srnec (talk) 16:58, 2 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The ones discussed in Origin stories of the Goths.--Andrew Lancaster (talk) 10:33, 7 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi Srnec, you've been converting Germanii to Germani with the comment that it's a spelling correction. That's not the case, both spelling are acceptable and appear in the literature. so I've reverted some of your changes under WP:BRD and happy to discuss under Talk:Germanic peoples. Cheers. Bermicourt (talk) 07:28, 16 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Bermicourt: can you give an example of any such literature? I've tried google and my impression is that this is Srnec was correct to remove this word. The only publications where I find this spelling are in Slavic texts, but Slavic has its own system of grammatical inflexions. In English, when a Latin word is borrowed we normally use the Nominative forms [17].--Andrew Lancaster (talk) 07:35, 16 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Bermicourt: Germanii implies a singular Germanius. The only Germanii I can find in the literature are the Carmanians of Persia. Srnec (talk) 11:23, 16 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Andrew Lancaster Ngram Viewer which only records English language sources shows that Germanii, while clearly less common than Germani, is used frequently enough to suggest it is a valid spelling, so there is no reason to delete every occurrence of it as if it were a mistake. It might be worth making this clear in the article on Germanic peoples where I see Srnec has removed it even as an alternative spelling. You're right that the mass of references is cluttered by Slavic texts or book references, but there are enough English language examples to make the point that the spelling is valid.

Srnec. Well just as one example among many, Ring, Watson and Schellinger (2013) state that "By the time the Romans first crossed the Rhine, in 38 BC, the Celtic people known to them as the Germanii were living on its banks." And I think you're onto something: a singular Germanius would probably have been (one) Germanic person, so Germanii would make entire sense as the plural. Either way the Romans used Germanii alongside Rugii, Bavarii and countless other tribes that use the Latin "-ii" ending. Cheers. Bermicourt (talk) 17:04, 16 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Bermicourt, why mention a tool like Ngram without any numbers or examples? Some of the examples are likely to be the Persian tribe? Can you actually cite one good history source in English, or any Latin source, which uses "Germanii" or "Germanius" to refer to the Germanic peoples of continental Europe? OTOH we do not use every spelling variant of course, because almost any spelling mistake possible has been made somewhere. Why would we use this one which is obviously extremely uncommon? I am not sure why you find this spelling so important. You can try searching relevant Latin works on https://www.perseus.tufts.edu/ and site:penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/ . I only find those Persians.--Andrew Lancaster (talk) 17:17, 16 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. I've copied this discussion to Talk:Germanic peoples as I think this is a topic that other interested editors make wish to comment on. Hope that's okay. Bermicourt (talk) 11:53, 17 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, on the article Croatian Naval Legion#Operational history, there is an erroneous date « 39 September » (introduced in this edit), which propagated to other wikis. Would you be able to provide the proper date? Thanks in advance. Od1n (talk) 05:23, 19 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

30 September ([18]). Fixed. Thanks, Srnec (talk) 22:40, 19 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed too on the French Wikipedia :-) Od1n (talk) 07:45, 20 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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You wouldn't happen to have a better source for the ancestral background of said philosopher would you? There was been a thing going on there for a while.--Andrew Lancaster (talk) 21:28, 30 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I checked the EI2, both him and his grandfather, and neither says anything about him other than "Spanish". It seems to be a pattern: the IEP and SEP likewise have nothing on his ancestry. The article "Ibn Rushd al-Ḥafīd (Averroes) and his exile to Lucena" refers to "his lack of an Arab (or Berber) tribal nisba" and says he was "accused" of being of Jewish descent. It cites "Explicit cruelty, implicit compassion: Judaism, forced conversions and the genealogy of the Banū Rushd". From that article, I gather that we know nothing with confidence of Averroes' genealogy back further than his famous grandfather. All sources for that are late and not really reliable. They suggest that Averroes' genealogy could be traced back to the late 9th or early 10th century in Spain, perhaps suggesting a conversion around that time. "Rushd" is a non-Arab name. Both articles think the accusation of Jewish ancestry might have a basis in fact and that the conversion may have been more recent (11th century). It seems to me on the basis of this brief research that there is probably no sound basis for calling him anything other than Andalusi. Srnec (talk) 04:03, 31 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Might be best indeed to remove all such reference unless someone finds something from a really strong source. I'll post something there quoting your summary.--Andrew Lancaster (talk) 08:27, 31 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

There's a draft somewhere in my userspace (User:RandomCanadian/sandbox5) where I tried to combine the two existing articles on the same thing (before being thrown off by the walls of text on the talk page, and being once again distracted by other issues), with the idea that this would allow for a better summary while preventing further inflation of article size. It's still a work in progress, and my ideas on the topic might not quite be the same as yours, but I wouldn't mind a helping hand. Cheers, RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 03:10, 11 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I will take a look. Srnec (talk) 12:36, 13 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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The infobox I added to the Duchy of Merania page was reverted with the label "'country'?" and I wanted to ask what was wrong with the infobox? If it was the fact that it was using the former country template I could use the subdivision template or any other that you think better suits the polity. Or if it's just you don't believe that an infobox would be beneficial or doesn't suit the article at this time then I will back off. Though I personally believe an infobox would benefit almost every article on political entities, especially those with moderate to substantial amount of text where an infobox could help easily give basic information.

It is that I just you don't believe an infobox would be beneficial or suit the article at this time. For example, it stated three times that the duchy began in 1152 and ended 1248, information which is in the first sentence. It lists two of the five dukes, although a "list of dukes" is right there in the table of contents. I think the lead just needs beefing up. I may do it when I finally incorporate Banić 2020 and Banić 2021 (not listed in the references yet) as I plan to. Srnec (talk) 00:41, 27 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Sourced by this website. Is this source reliable? --Kansas Bear (talk) 03:29, 14 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

For a local legend? Probably. For history? No. The local legend may be relevant at Edigna, but not at Henry I of France or Anne of Kiev. We could get a better source. I notice that

Bogomoletz, Wladimir V. (2005). "Anna of Kiev: An Enigmatic Capetian Queen of the Eleventh Century—A Reassessment of Biographical Sources". French History. 19 (3): 299–323. doi:10.1093/fh/cri032.

mentions a "persistent tradition" that "Emma or Edigna" was Henry and Anne's daughter. Unfortunately, I have no idea how late this tradition is or how reliable. Srnec (talk) 05:14, 14 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Glad that this seems to have piqued someone else's interest. I have barely scratched the surface of what I think is a fascinating subject. Where else can you find a pig quoting from the Quran? Just wondering if you have any knowledge of Arabic (took me long enuf to find out what the Romanised Arabic title was, and I still have no clue what it is in actual Arabic!)---there's probably a lot more material written in that. Also I seem to recall that an English translation by Goodman had already been published in the 1970s, if that's noteworthy. This defo has potential to be a GA at least. Cheers, Kingoflettuce (talk) 00:10, 25 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, I do not know Arabic. I do have a copy of the Laytner and Bridge adaptation. If there is an earlier translation, I think that's noteworthy. Srnec (talk) 14:16, 25 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Hello! I am quite doubtful this Zdeslav of Sternberg is identical with that nobleman, who married to a member of the Csák clan from Hungary. In fact, it was Zdeslav's namesake grandson (per Czech wiki). Their son Štěpán ze Šternberka (in Hungarian, "Stephen the Czech") became a heir of the Csák domain for a brief time in 1321, after the death of Matthew III Csák. --Norden1990 (talk) 04:49, 11 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Norden1990: I admit that I made the connection solely on the basis of probability. Matthew I Csák, an adult by 1235, is said to have had a daughter who married Zdeslav, who had a young son in 1253. It seems less likely to me that Matthew's daughter married the Zdeslav of 1281–1322. Still, I have reverted some of my links and changed others to point to the Czech Wiki. I think the exact relationship of the younger Zdeslav's wife to the various member's of the Csák family needs checking. Srnec (talk) 22:41, 11 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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An undiscussed move of this wasn't a good idea. The article is about a church feast day, & normally has the "Saint". For God's sake don't start taking this line with paintings. Birth of John the Baptist is an event, Nativity of Saint John the Baptist something else. Johnbod (talk) 01:11, 2 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The article itself used "Nativity of John the Baptist", which sounds more normal for me. Perhaps its a regional thing, or perhaps its subject-matter dependent. The history books seem to prefer no "saint" for the feast day. Srnec (talk) 21:39, 2 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Srnec, glad to hear from you. What I have documented is that Rodrigo Vázquez, son of count Vasco (Velasco) Sánchez and Urraca Viegas, died in 1198 in the battle of Ervas Tenras, and married Toda Palazín (daughter of Palacín de Alagón) who most likely accompanied Dulce de Aragón when she married Sancho I of Portugal. I only have two daughters from this marriage: María (married to Ximeno de Urrea) and Teresa Rodríguez de Barbosa (married to Gómez Suárez de Tougues). One of the sources is this article by Sottomayor Pizarro, p. 222], also see notes 33 and 34, p. 231. Hope this helps. Regards, --Maragm (talk) 21:37, 7 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, Maragm! Looks like Suero is unrelated. I will add this information to the Velasco page. Srnec (talk) 21:59, 7 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I have included a list for some articles that still have no pages. Hence, I would like to ask if you can please have a look at it and help to turn all the reds to blues if possible. Regards. Alas2022 (talk) 20:20, 9 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the link. I will have a look. Srnec (talk) 00:14, 10 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Srnec, just wanted to explain my edit. Considering it had been listed as Tripartite Signers per yours and another user’s recommendation, and has been that way for 5 years, I figured some sort of consensus or discussion was warranted as was always asked whenever major changes are made. Why is this time different however. Tripart seemed like a neutral way to describe states that weren’t necessarily all powers but definitely allies of the main Axis powers. For example when a user wanted to add a sub category for puppet states that were acis aligned, they were required consensus and reverted by a single editor. I mean “Other Axis States” makes sense. Better than powers. Just wondering about the change of edit requirements. Cheers and thanks for your edit. OyMosby (talk) 14:28, 12 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

My edit was based on past discussions, especially in Archive 10. I think consensus was to avoid "Tripartite", "co-belligerent" and "puppet" designations in the infobox and to distinguish only between the "major" Axis powers and the rest. I'm not sure there was consensus on exactly what to call the rest beyond "other". Srnec (talk) 21:05, 12 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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If "Hungaro-Ukrainian War" is unknown in English why did you moved article without updaing lead, infobox and Wikidata? Don't move pages without updating lead, infobox and Wikidata. Eurohunter (talk) 23:36, 18 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hello I wanted to ask your reasoning for creating a WP:D Werner of Steusslingen with just one category? Can a hatnote suffice? Bruxton (talk) 21:31, 19 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I created it to head off any attempt to move the blue-linked article to Werner of Steusslingen on the mistaken assumption that it was unambiguous. The German Wiki has a dab page, so I assumed that there isn't a primary topic. Since the other page is red-linked, a hatnote won't work right now. Srnec (talk) 23:16, 19 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the message. I am new to on NPP and did not want to make a mistake. Bruxton (talk) 01:19, 20 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Srnec, at the Aqsa discussion, I left you a message at 08:31, 14 June 2022. If you have time would you mind letting me know the answer? Onceinawhile (talk) 16:58, 21 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you Srnec. I and another editor have replied. Onceinawhile (talk) 07:29, 22 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Srnec, thanks again for all your efforts here. I believe consensus has developed around some form of disambiguation, whilst the Qibli proposal won’t gain consensus. I would be interested in your thoughts on what solution might gain enough consensus to pass at this point. Thanks again. Onceinawhile (talk) 19:51, 9 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi Srnec, you recently undid edits I did on pages for governors of Al-Andalus governors, such as Hudhayfa_ibn_al-Ahwas_al-Qaysi. I had added infoboxes to the pages of governors, and you undid those edits because of the information in the infoboxes being redundant given that there was a succession box at the bottom of the page that had that information. My perspective was that the infoboxes can be populated with information that the succession box can't be, and I wanted to be consistent with other pages for Al-Andalus governors. Geopony (talk) 15:02, 13 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I believe the three infoboxes I removed were the only al-Andalus governors with infoboxes. I was trying to be consistent. On short articles, I think the infoboxes are a distraction. Also, please respect WP:BRD. Srnec (talk) 15:17, 13 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Srnec: why are you removing infoboxes, I may ask? I did not find a valid reason for that removal. Thought of discussion on your talk itself since this removal is not focused on single article. Logosx127 (talk) 01:54, 18 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think infoboxes are useful on short articles in general (outside a few exceptional topic areas). I think most infoboxes are not well designed to handle historical complexity and uncertainty. I do not go around removing infoboxes, but I will often remove them from pages on my watchlist if I think they are being added pro forma. For example, the infobox you added to Elias of Merv contains no information not in the first sentence. Srnec (talk) 01:58, 18 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Srnec, I am not opposing all those removals at the same time. Some of them are almost okay for me and yes, I agree with most of your reply. But you seem to be blindly reverting all what I do there, and I smell bad faith on me from your part. Or is that some sort of an article ownership? Anyway I don't mean any harm to the article, I assure. But I prefer to keep infoboxes wherever they are effective in giving a nutshell about the article. Especially in cases where the subject of bio is also a saint or have successor/predecessor or previous post. In case of Elias of Merv, the infobox was indeed somewhat unnecessary. But that not the case always. And I have intentions to expand those articles too.Logosx127 (talk) 02:06, 18 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

On the contrary, if you look at maphrian you will see I have lots of reverts in the article history but I haven't touched your edits. Srnec (talk) 02:18, 18 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Srnec: so you have all these articles in your watchlist? Well and good. I have restored the infobox in Gregory of Kashkar and don't remove that. That indeed carries some information. And I am okay with the other two for now. Logosx127 (talk) 02:23, 18 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Articles I create go on my watchlist by default and I rarely remove them. I will leave Gregory of Kashkar for now, since I have long planned to come back to that article and expand it. But please don't give orders ("don't remove that"). Srnec (talk) 00:24, 19 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Why did you moved page Marquess of la Romana to Marquis of La Romana? Marquess and Marquis is the same, or not? Bye. 88.5.40.33 (talk) 18:51, 10 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Like earl, marquess is generally reserved for British usage. Marquis is more common for continental nobility (in English). Srnec (talk) 15:10, 27 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Howdy. If you wish to open up an RFC on papal intros or an RM on papal bios or both, concerning whether or not to use 'Pope'? I won't object. But for now. let's try to keep consistency as much as possible across those 265 bios, while acknowledging that St. Peter gets treated differently. GoodDay (talk) 00:17, 22 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Would just like to point this out regarding your re-opening of the Requested Move on the Armeniai-Azerbaijani War page, per WP:CR:

"Many discussions result in a reasonably clear consensus, so if the consensus is clear, any editor—even one involved in the discussion—may close the discussion. [...] if consensus becomes clear before that and discussion has slowed, then it may be closed earlier. However, editors usually wait at least a week after a discussion opens, unless the outcome is very obvious, so that there is enough time for a full discussion." DJ (talk) 23:21, 23 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

That does not apply to RMs. The closure rule for them is An involved editor, admin or otherwise, may not close a move request (with one exception, detailed below). See WP:RMCLOSE. —Srnec (talk) 23:24, 23 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Fair enough. However, WP:RMCLOSE also states "the mere fact that the closer was not an admin is never sufficient reason to reverse a closure." DJ (talk) 23:34, 23 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Srnec, what's the problem with that book? It's published by Princeton... Drmies (talk) 23:56, 29 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Drmies: Nothing wrong with the book per se, but it is about the Black Death and mentions Fraxinetum in passing in the prologue. It is being used to claim that Fraxinetum was an "emirate" and that it extended into Switzerland. I do not see that we need to introduce this source for this (questionable) information in the lead. Ballan, for example, calls it "an Islamic frontier state", but never calls it an emirate. Likewise, he does not corroborate Fraxinetum's control extending into Switzerland, although they certainly raided there. Srnec (talk) 01:16, 30 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Al Mursi or Mursi is the same. For example Al Ganzouri or Ganzouri. Panam2014 (talk) 20:22, 22 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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I wonder how you chose the name of this page you moved - it seems dubious. Just a few days ago the article said it was formed in 1916: after all, it celebrated its 100th anniversary in 2016. StAnselm (talk) 15:22, 20 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The hatnote: "This article is about the Christian Church formed in 1911." I've no idea what date makes more sense or if there is an altogether better way to disambiguate. I only know that the old title was bad. Srnec (talk)

I have moved it to Apostolic Church (1916 denomination). StAnselm (talk) 22:24, 20 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I note you reverted my unsourced change to the article. Yes, my change is unsourced. But if you look at the third last sentence in the last paragraph of the article, you will see why I made the change. This feat earned him the honorific by which he is now known, "the victor" (al-muzaffar) replacing "sword of the dynasty" (sayf al-dawla). How can he already be called "the victor" (al-muzaffar) when the article says later that that title was awarded later in his life? Chewings72 (talk) 09:58, 26 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Chewings72: I checked the Makki citation and what he says is reinforcing him with a powerful army headed by his son, 'Abd al-Malik, who was given the title "al-Muzaffar". I have simply removed the statement in the article since it isn't entirely clear whether Makki means that this was the occasion for giving him that title or that this was the title by which he came to be known. Obviously I read it the first way the first time, but in light of the other source that reading can't stand. Srnec (talk) 14:48, 26 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you.  :) Chewings72 (talk) 08:49, 27 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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I am a bit worried about this Peter being confused with the similarly-named theologian. The two appear already to have been conflated on French Wikipedia.--Thoughtfortheday (talk) 11:31, 26 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Thoughtfortheday: Do what you think is best. I am rather strict with WP:NAMB myself, but I won't fight over it. Many cases are judgement calls about what readers who don't know Wikipedia's inner workings will infer from our choices. Srnec (talk) 15:53, 26 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I see you have redirected List of Visigothic Kings, it back at A list of Visigothic Kings. I had earlier redirected the second article, but DilutedHereticX has restored it. Thoighy you might want to know. I'm going to redirect the recreated article again, but I'm sure it will just be restored again. -- LCU ActivelyDisinterested ∆transmissions∆ °co-ords° 22:37, 31 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

And again A list of Emperors, although it could have been speedied by the time you see this. -- LCU ActivelyDisinterested ∆transmissions∆ °co-ords° 20:37, 18 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@ActivelyDisinterested: It was. The user in question has exactly zero interactions with other editors. And it isn't for lack of concerns raised on his or her talk page. Srnec (talk) 02:07, 19 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Srnec I don't know what to at this point, I just redirect the latest version that was at List of Visigothic Monarchs. -- LCU ActivelyDisinterested ∆transmissions∆ °co-ords° 19:48, 21 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

WP:CIR. Pinging @Whpq: the editor who blocked the user in question from the File namespace. Srnec (talk) 23:21, 21 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I've left a note at the editor's talk page. Hopefully, that will prompt them respond to issues. -- Whpq (talk) 13:34, 22 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi @Srnec: Are you putting random links in. I had to revert. Are you not checking what your linking to? scope_creep^Talk 22:02, 8 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

THat is some really good well-written articles you've created. scope_creep^Talk 22:47, 8 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The general was at Friedrich Stahl, so I moved him to make a dab page. I fixed some of the links, but Große Berliner Kunstausstellung was sloppiness. We don't have an article on the artist, although the German Wiki does. Why do you say he was Italian? Srnec (talk) 01:42, 9 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Could you please at least bother to participate in the merger discussion instead of refusing to respond when your criticisms are addressed? The behaviour of many "participants" of the discussion where they make criticisms of the proposal but then refuse to respond when their criticisms are addressed is starting to become ludicrous, and this includes your latest "input" where you accused me of not knowing what I am trying to do although I had already made it very clear to you that all my past splits and mergers were done because that's what the data I had at hand at the time suggested I should do. Antiquistik (talk) 15:32, 17 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Why does this matter so much to you? What is the current setup preventing you from doing? I think we should retain sub-articles on the various Scythian kingdoms per WP:SUMMARY. If you want to call that a merge to Scythians, fine. I'd leave Scythia as a geography article. I'd restore the two articles on the lesser Scythias and structure the main article to make the progression clear. I'd do this because the main article is already 136,292 bytes long and we already have a sub-article on Scythian culture. —Srnec (talk) 01:28, 18 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

My issue is that I have added all the data that I could while the pages are in their current states, and I need to know for sure whether the pages will remain separate or will be merged to be able to add the data I now have at hand, and I can't do that so long as the status of the various pages remains uncertain.

And my concern is only with the polity of Iškuza and Pontic Scythia: I initially moved content from Scythians to these because most editors tend to be in favour of splitting as much as possible. However this is not working well because they all cover the same polity, meaning that information about these is so intertwined to the point there it is necessary to copy extremely large amounts of content from each other to provide proper historical background for each article. This, in turn creates large amounts of repetition and duplication so that about half of the present Iškuza and Scythia articles consist of material copied from each other and from Scythians.

This is why I have had no problems with splitting other sections from Scythians but been proposing to merge only Iškuza and Pontic Scythia into Scythians. I however do agree with you that Scythia should be made into a separate geography article, and, if you think it will be better to do so, then we could restore the pages of the two Scythiae Minores too. Antiquistik (talk) 11:02, 18 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Although my biggest issue so far is the thorough unseriousness of multiple participants of that discussion, which in the case of certain users goes into outright bad faith territory.

The present administrative processes of Wikipedia are clearly dysfunctional and easily abused. Antiquistik (talk) 11:32, 18 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Why do you think summary style won't work in this instance? Why must the pages be "merged" rather than simply turned into clearer sub-articles of the main article? Why not have the political history covered in full in summary at Scythians with more depth and detail to be found in the political sub-articles (Ishkuza, Pontic Scythia, the Scythiae Minores)? Srnec (talk) 17:06, 18 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Because of the large amount of information overlap and duplication that I have mentioned:

• in Iškuza, the "Origins" sub-section is copied content from Scythians verbatim, and it is absolutely crucial information to understand the formation of this polity, so it can't be just removed from the page or condensed further;
• in Scythia, it's worse because the whole of the "Origins of the Scythians" sub-section and much of the "Arrival in the Pontic steppe" sub-sub-section of the "Background" sub-section, and the whole "Society" section are also merely content copied verbatim from Scythians, and the "West Asia" sub-sub-section of the "Background" sub-section is a slightly condensed summary of Iškuza, and in this case too, none of these sections can be removed or further condensed without losing crucial information to understand the formation and society of this polity.

The situation means that only the sub-sections concerning the political histories proper of Iškuza and Scythia are unique to those pages and they form less than half of each page. Meanwhile the rest, which forms the bulk of each page, is copied content which cannot be removed or further condensed. Additionally, much of the content of the "Culture and society" of Scythians requires most of the content from the political histories of Iškuza and Scythia as context to be understandable, which isn't possible under the current setting of separate pages.

The gist of it is that the information concerning the West Asian and Pontic kingdoms of the Scythians is too inherently intertwined with the general understanding of the Scythians themselves, and having stand-alone pages in this specific case makes it more difficult to convey information about the topic. Which is why I am proposing that Iškuza and the information about the political history of Scythia be merged into Scythians while, as you had earlier suggested, turning the current Scythia page into one covering the geographic term denoted by the name "Scythia."

The Medes article, which covers both the Median ethnic group and the Median Empire while there is a separate article for the region of Media, and the Ammon, Moab and Edom articles, which cover the states of Ammon, Moab, and Edom, as well as the Ammonite, Moabite, and Edomite ethnic groups, are good examples of what, in my opinion, should be the format for the Scythians. Although I think I am warming up to your position that the Scythiae Minores should be their own separate pages.

Furthermore, even if merging Iškuza and Scythia into Scythians is ultimately rejected, Iškuza and Scythia would nevertheless need to be merged with each other because, as the source Ivantchik (2018) notes, the Scythian presence in West Asia (i.e. Iškuza) was merely an extension of the Scythian kingdom in the steppes (i.e. Scythia), meaning that they were not separate polities, and the aforementioned information overlap between these two articles is too extensive for these two phases of the same polity sharing extremely extensive political, social and cultural continuity.

Although I am also adding the caveat that I am not asking you to change your position in my favour, I am only asking you to engage in the discussion, which is why I only requested you to participate, not to side with me, in my initial message. Antiquistik (talk) 18:03, 19 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Unfortunately, the discussion does not seem to be active. I think there is no consensus for a merge, although I am not wedded to an independent Iškuza article. I think you need to approach this from a new angle. Perhaps draft articles that would show editors exactly what you have in mind? Srnec (talk) 03:07, 22 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

What must I do to show a draft to the editors? Antiquistik (talk) 16:32, 25 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Create the draft and ping them on the draft talk page? Just a suggestion. Srnec (talk) 16:34, 25 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Srnec,

Take a read of WP:Quote. We do not have to reproduce spelling mistakes from quotes. It is not as if the error is very significant. Sometimes the spelling error can help to discredit the source. But that is not usually what we are trying to do. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 07:37, 4 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I'm surprised to see that, but it is an essay and I'm not sure I agree with it. The APA disagrees. Moreover, the error is not called out by "(sic)" to draw attention to it. I'm more comfortable not altering the spelling in quotations. After all, couldn't we then Americanize British spellings in quotations if we felt like it? For consistency in an article? Srnec (talk) 15:18, 4 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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I have a bit of a conundrum.

What do you know about a rebellion by a Heinrich von Virneburg and his posssession(occupation?) of the archdiocese of Mainz? Would you know what year that occurred? Any information would be helpful. Thanks! --Kansas Bear (talk) 14:06, 1 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I'm pretty sure you're talking about the "Mainz Schism" as mentioned at Baldwin of Luxembourg. This de:Heinrich III. von Virneburg was the pro-Louis IV/pro-Nicholas V candidate. It looks like the schism in Mainz lasted longer than the papal schism. Other than the sources in the German article, I don't really know of any off the top of my head. The reign of Emperor Louis IV is poorly covered in English and that definitely includes the antipapacy of Nicholas V. Srnec (talk) 15:21, 1 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

You sir, are awesome! That is more information than I was able to find. Thank you so much! Stay safe, Srnec! --Kansas Bear (talk) 19:14, 1 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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The source is about people who claim to be just muslims not about Non-denominational Muslims!!!!!!!!! Panam2014 (talk) 18:46, 16 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Panam2014: Considering how you modified the lead at Non-denominational Muslim, your hairsplitting makes no sense to me. Srnec (talk) 18:49, 16 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

You are not neutral but biaised user. Panam2014 (talk) 18:51, 16 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Panam2014: Well now, I read the survey and it's fairly clear that you are misreading or misrepresenting the source itself, since the Pew Research survey explicitly speaks of Muslims worldwide who choose not to affiliate with a specific sect, aka Non-denominational Muslims. Therefore, the content that you keep deleting is sourced and accurate, fully in accordance with the cited source which you keep disparaging with your useless edit warring:

“Just a Muslim”

"Many Muslims worldwide choose not to affiliate with a specific sect but volunteer that they are “just a Muslim.” This affiliation is most common in Central Asia and across Southern and Eastern Europe; in both regions, the median percentage stating they are “just a Muslim” is half or more. In Kazakhstan, nearly three-quarters (74%) of Muslims volunteer this response, as do more than six-in-ten Muslims in Albania (65%) and Kyrgyzstan (64%).

In sub-Saharan Africa and Southeast Asia, substantial minorities also consider themselves “just a Muslim” (medians of 23% and 18%, respectively). And in three countries – Indonesia (56%), Mali (55%) and Cameroon (40%) – “just a Muslim” is the single most-frequent response when people are queried about their sect. Identification as “just a Muslim” is less prevalent in the Middle East and North Africa (median of 12%) and South Asia (median of 4%)." GenoV84 (talk) 19:06, 16 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Panam2014: If you accuse other editors of being biased while disrupting the project by abiding to your own POV, you are most definitely WP:NOTHERE. GenoV84 (talk) 19:08, 16 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@GenoV84: stop liying. You made a clear WP:OR and violated [[WP:NOTHERE] Panam2014 (talk) 19:15, 16 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Are you talking to yourself in the mirror? Because that's what it looks like....

I simply stick to the sources and didn't violate any POV, unlike you my dear. GenoV84 (talk) 19:21, 16 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@GenoV84: your behaviour is ridiculous. You are guilty of original research and misappropriation of source. Panam2014 (talk) 19:22, 16 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Panam2014: Read the source again, and prove it. Remember to avoid insults and personal attacks, because that's also forbidden on Wikipedia. GenoV84 (talk) 19:26, 16 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@GenoV84: Very cheeky of you. You insulted me as a liar and a vandal Panam2014 (talk) 19:28, 16 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Criticizing a behavior is not prohibited Panam2014 (talk) 19:29, 16 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Panam2014: You have been reported to WP:ANI for insults and personal attacks. GenoV84 (talk) 20:00, 16 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Srnec. You added a reference for "Grenfell & Hunt 1901" to Amherst papyri, and two cites for "Grenfell & Hunt 1900" but not one for 1901. Could you let me know which of the cite you meant? -- LCU ActivelyDisinterested ∆transmissions∆ °co-ords° 13:40, 22 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed. Thanks, Srnec (talk) 15:04, 22 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, this is about [19]: perhaps you should suggest an alternative wording, instead of wholesale deletion. tgeorgescu (talk) 04:30, 26 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Seeing as the paper nowhere uses the word 'guru', why do you think it is relevant? Srnec (talk) 20:54, 26 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I don't see a real difference between "guru" and "cult leader" (at least in Western contexts). tgeorgescu (talk) 12:51, 27 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

It isn't a page about cult leaders. Even the "Western" section is mostly about the Western reception of the guru–shishya tradition, which is almost the opposite of a charismatic and self-appointed leader with a set of beliefs and practices which are considered deviant (cf. cult). Srnec (talk) 20:14, 27 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Your point is valid. However, when Western people speak of gurus they mean people like Rudolf Steiner, Jiddu Krishnamurti, Omraam Mikhaël Aïvanhov, Osho Rajneesh, and so on. tgeorgescu (talk) 20:19, 27 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi. I was beginning to slog through the newly created issue when the Hebrew redirect was changed from the language to the dab page, when I realized that there needed to be some discussion of the retargeting. So I simply reverted the change of target. Thanks for reverting those. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 22:19, 8 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Wait, based on this, Can I close as moved if literally no votes have taken place? >>> Extorc.talk 05:10, 20 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Yes. It can be read as uncontroversial. That is my understanding of the 'no minimum participation' rule. In this particular case, I felt it was uncontroversial, but out of an abundance of caution for anything related to the Middle East (construed broadly), I went with RM. When I see no participation, I assume my instinct was right and it is in fact uncontroversial. Srnec (talk) 16:07, 20 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hello! In the article you created for the Crusade of 1129, there is a redlink to Bohemond I of Antioch's Crusade of 1107. Is this another name for the Siege of Dyrrhachium (1107–1108), and if so, would it make sense for me to make the redlink a redirect to that article? Or would this be a larger topic that would eventually get its own article. Blue Danube (talk) 16:58, 5 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I went ahead an created a redirect tagged {{R with possibilities}}, since it is a larger topic that would eventually get its own article. Srnec (talk) 00:03, 6 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Hello Srnec, I have a question which you may think to be frivolous; when I was editing this article, I noticed that we use Lord for French noblemen who own manor, however, wouldn’t it be more qualitative if we used seigneur? The French use seigneur on their Wikipedia and it’s in the English dictionary, furthermore, I would say it’s more pertinent and appropriate even if it may seem trivial. Nonetheless, I hope you can enlighten me on this matter as someone who is more savant than me. Okiyo9228 (talk) 21:56, 11 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure what you mean by "more qualitative". I think it is the same. "Lord" is a translation of "seigneur". Whether it needs translating depends, I think, on context. If we are talking about lordship, then a translation seems wise. But if we are merely using identifying titles, then there is a stronger tendency to stick to French. 'So-and-so inherited the seigneurie/lordship of X' seems fine to me either way. I do not believe English usage is terribly consistent in this. Srnec (talk) 22:43, 11 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I'd suggest doing some checking before dismissing edits as nonsense. The history of the Imperial Austrian Army starts in 1806, see the article Imperial_Austrian_Army_(1806–1867, before 1806 the Habsburg monarchy was an amalgam of territories, most of which were part of the Holy Roman Empire and therefore not fully sovereign and it's army was the Imperial Army (Holy Roman Empire). I will happily shift the article linked to Imperial and Royal Army during the Napoleonic Wars which may be more relevant. Additionally your edit mentions Italian Republics, which after the Treaty of Lunéville were all merged into the Italian Republic (Napoleonic). Ecrm87 (talk) 21:59, 11 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, Imperial and Royal Army during the Napoleonic Wars is probably a better link. I will issue a mea culpa of sorts, since you are correct regarding the topic of the article at Imperial Army (Holy Roman Empire). But I think the distinction being drawn here between the "Imperial Army" and the "Army of the Holy Roman Empire" does not make sense. The norman translation of Reichsarmee would be "imperial army". I assumed, incorrectly, that that was what the article was about. Our two article titles do not properly distinguish their contents. John Gagliardo, Germany under the Old Regime 1600–1790, p. 4, clearly reserves "Imperial Army" for the Reichsarmee, likewise Roeland Goorts, War, State, and Society in Liège, p. 129.

As for the Italian republics, I think you are wrong. The treaty refers to the République cisalpine and République ligurienne. The Italian Republic was formed after the treaty. Srnec (talk) 22:43, 11 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I think the problem is that Kaiserliche Armee and Reichsarmee both translate in English to Imperial Army, whereas the more accurate term for the former would be Emperor's Army. They were definitely separate entities as one was raised and paid for directly by the emperor from his own dominions to be used at his discretion and the other by the princes of the empire only in the event of a Reichskreig.

As for the Italian republic(s) I agree the reference in the treaty is to the two republics, but that section of the article's talking about the treaty's implications and the merger of the italian republics into one was a direct result of the treaty. Perhaps adding a later to that sentence might clarify better? Ecrm87 (talk) 22:56, 11 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Srnec,

You moved Kizilbash (suburb) and I was wondering why the article wasn't titled Trachonas which is how the town is identified in the article. Do you know why? Thanks. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 01:30, 24 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Liz: I didn't even notice! But I do know why: an improper cut-and-paste move from Trachonas by Sportscorrection back in 2018. Is it possible for their histories to be merged? I have no opinion on which title is more appropriate, only that it isn't he primary topic for Kizilbash. The (correct, original) redirect was overwritten during the cut-and-paste. Srnec (talk) 02:05, 24 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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One of the comments here is almost trolling! I cNnot see what caused it but it is clear that you are a valuable member of the Wikipedia community. You must work full time at it. Best wishes Bev Rowe (bev@bevrowe.info) BevRowe (talk) 17:28, 13 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Hello, I was just editing the articles of the early popes and I saw someone changed one of the pope’s church from Catholic Church to Early Christianity, denoting those popes who died before the Nicene Creed. Thus, I choose to emulate the editor’s actions to serve as a modality for the early popes. Hence, I have come here to ask your opinion on the matter… Raulois (talk) 02:16, 24 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure exactly what you're asking. Can you link to a diff of the kind of edit you are talking about? Srnec (talk) 02:35, 24 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

He's done a load of these. It would have been better to have asked first, and asked at the Catholicism project. I'm sure the question has been discussed there before, and perhaps a consensus formed. Don't be amazed if you get reverted. Johnbod (talk) 02:46, 24 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

You’re probably right, sorry. Raulois (talk) 03:05, 24 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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bro why do u remove those sieges? . pls answer me — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zayani55 (talk • contribs) 10:04, 24 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Not every single battle or siege deserves an article of its own. The sourcing for pre-modern conflicts will not necessarily support it. The articles as they stood were fluffy pieces that introduced little or no information not already in the parent article on the campaign (and better sourced there). Srnec (talk) 01:02, 25 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Srnec. Just to confirm, you added a reference for "Petrizzi 2010" but did you mean "Peruzzi 2010" (e.g. "A New Physics to Support the Copernican System: Gleanings from Galileo's Works")? Otherwise a new full cite will be required. -- LCU ActivelyDisinterested ∆transmissions∆ °co-ords° 10:39, 4 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed. Thanks, Srnec (talk) 11:33, 4 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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While checking CGR article alerts, I noted that not only was the discussion about splitting Drobolitza and Mouchli closed (quite reasonably), but that both the title and the discussion on the article were now redlinked. Perhaps I'm not familiar enough with the process—but aren't discussions about keeping/deleting/merging/splitting articles usually preserved? I checked on the pages of both topics, since experience teaches me that merge proposals are often started on the wrong talk page, making them harder to locate, as clicking the link under the merge template and alerts pages lead to the place the discussion was expected to take place—but in this case the discussion doesn't seem to have gone under either of the articles, probably because the original page was deleted without a redirect. As someone more familiar with the process, I expect you can tell me—shouldn't the discussion that resulted in splitting the contents between Drobolitza and Mouchli—evidently the latter having been created as a result of the split—be preserved on at least one of the talk pages, perhaps with a link from the other, so that there's a record of what was done and why? P Aculeius (talk) 13:27, 8 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Drobolitza and Mouchli is linked at the top of Talk:Mouchli. Or am I misunderstanding your concern? I only moved the page without leaving a redirect using my page mover rights. I'm not an admin. I don't think I can delete any substantial content. Srnec (talk) 21:12, 8 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, my mistake! I think I saw the discussion redlinked under article alerts, and erroneously thought it had been deleted. Probably not thinking clearly! Thanks for clearing that up. P Aculeius (talk) 04:26, 14 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Intriguing! Before my heavy edit and recasting of the Allography/Allograph article, I searched around for uses of the word. Virtually all were about letter shapes, with the legal use (an agent on behalf of a principal) a very poor second. The Coptic/Arabic didn't come up at all. The choice of the word "allography" makes sense, given its etymology, though I can't help wondering if it is an archaic usage given that transliteration is the more generic term? So when you write "a practice known as allography", the question must arise: known by whom? Is this usage unique to Worrell?

I'm also a bit concerned by the WP:EGG effect of having [[Garshunography|Allography]]: my preference would be for Garshunography ("Allography"). But I recognise of course that this is a specialist topic and words have specific meanings in that context and are understood by the readership. So totally your call.

When you write the Garshunography article, you will need to extend the hatnote on the allograph article to point to it.

You might want to add a line or two to the Wiktionary article too? 𝕁𝕄𝔽 (talk) 10:10, 24 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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I left the redirect instead, as it was before brunodam's edit. The only "substantial" edit were two, literally two, sentences added by Johnbod in 2021, any other substantial edit has been done either by brunodam's sockpuppets or IPs (I can't literally find an IP which is not his). In order to magnify his own idea of Italy and Italian heritage (usually with a nostalgic fascination of fascism) brunodam doesn't really thinks twice before falsifying source or even creating his own, although the content in question appears to be just a trivial summary of contents present elsewhere, I can't trust a single word written by him. I won't open an RfD, speaking frainkly it's quite a time consuming process and I'm fairly tired of being given the burden of proof when dealing with such a blatant abuser. Bye. --Vituzzu (talk) 22:26, 19 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

That is flat untrue - for example I did these edits in September, and many other editors have added stuff - look at the history. I'm reluctant to take you to ANI, but you are on your last warning.

Srnec - you haven't archived this for over 5 years, & it takes a while to find the bottom! Just saying. Thanks for your edits. Johnbod (talk) 02:10, 20 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I will archive it soon. Srnec (talk) 00:55, 23 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, I didn't get the point. I was just added infobox. Why you reverted this edit? ‍~ 𝕂𝕒𝕡𝕦𝕕𝕒𝕟 ℙ𝕒ş𝕒 ^{(inbox - contribs)} 03:45, 22 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I just don't see an infobox improving the article. Infoboxes are best where important information cannot be put into just a few reasable sentences. Srnec (talk) 00:55, 23 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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"Not obvious improvements" is kind of a chicken way to avoid saying what you didn't like about my edit that you reverted? There were two lowercasings. Did one of them seem wrong to you? Dicklyon (talk) 04:13, 6 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Dicklyon: Both, for different reasons. First, you left the intro as The Second Battle of Dongola or siege of Dongola, which looks silly to me. If we have a name ("Second Battle of Dongola"), why are we tossing out a description in bold? If the former is not actually a name, then it, too, should be lower case. But in that case, the article should be moved, which can be done boldly or by RM. I favour the latter because I do not think the current title would be an acceptable descriptive title. I am not opposed to a move, however. Second, so-called "Old Church" looks like a way of saying "the church referred to either by natives or by scholars as the 'Old Church'". It looks, in other words, like a name. I believe it is usually capitalized in sources, as it is in The Medieval Kingoms of Nubia. Srnec (talk) 04:23, 6 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

OK, so one "looks silly" to you, and the other might be treated as a proper name, even though there's no hint of that in the article, and no source cited near the usage. I think MOS:CAPS suggests we default to lowercase when we don't have a good reason to do otherwise; looking silly to you is not such a reason. I agree that the "Second Battle of" title needs further investigation, but it's not required that I fix everything in one go, is it? Battles often seems to have these kinds of settled names; there's no reason to think it would have two proper names. Dicklyon (talk) 04:58, 6 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The ref for the damaged church just calls it "a church". Dicklyon (talk) 05:06, 6 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Checking sources, it's clear that the title is not so common, but as often "second battle" or "second Battle" as "Second Battle" (in sentences); so I moved it. Dicklyon (talk) 05:16, 6 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Dicklyon: Most instances of "second battle of Dongola" are probably downstream of the Wikipedia article. I can find only one case from before 2009, when our article was created. It is on p. 1 of the Historical Dictionary of Ancient and Medieval Nubia. It is in lower case. As for "Old Church", it should be capitalized, as it is in the Handbook of Ancient Nubia, the Historical Dictionary of Medieval Christian Nubia, The Christian Epigraphy of Egypt and Nubia, etc. It is consistently capitalized in RS. Most churches in Dongola have names like this (i.e., "Church of the Granite Columns"). Srnec (talk) 15:28, 6 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Please add that ref to "Old Church" then. Thanks. Dicklyon (talk) 16:38, 6 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Why did you revert my edits under the pretext of not reliable sources. Those were various historical books with precise dates, better than, for example, the primary source used in the article, which gives single years rather than periods. One such error is the statement that Lithuania was a great power in 1450, omitting Poland, although a number of sources cite Poland and Lithuania together as a great power since the victory at Grunwald in 1410. Plus the photo of the largest great power by area seems to be adequate for the article (no room for maps of all powers as the article is short). The omission of a number of powers, like the North Sea Empire, the Second Bulgarian Empire, Poland or Hungary, is apparent to any person with at least an average interest in medieval European history.

Compare this to articles on ancient or modern powers, where each is briefly described with maps. I am not able to develop the article in a similar way because I do not know various languages, however, it seems to me I have taken a step in the right direction in which the article could be developed. Please explain precisely how the sources I cited were inferior to some of those already used, and do not just one-click revert my or other users' sizable edits without prior discussion, if only out of consideration for someone's effort. Marcin 303 (talk) 12:36, 16 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Hello, Srnec,

I review the Move log daily and it seemed like today there were a number of times where you moved an article from A title to B title, and a few minutes later moved it from B title back to A title. If this happened once, it would seem like a simple mistake but I saw this happening several times. I guess I'd just like to ask you to be more careful with your page moves, think about whether an article should be moved to a different page title (or not moved) and, if so, what it should be and get the spelling and grammar correct the first time. Since you are a page mover, if any of these mistaken page moves were do to misspellings, then you don't need to leave a redirect behind when you move an article back. And if you are trying to create redirects, you can do that easily without moving an article just by putting #REDIRECT on the redirect page along with the current title.

I realize that you are a very experienced editor so I was more suprised at these move reverts and just thought I'd cover all of the bases in this message. Thanks for all of your contributions. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 05:01, 24 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello,

Why did you remove my family name from the Muhtasib wikipedia page? It is accurate and directly related to the information. I can testify that the family is from Hebron. Please revert the change kindly, thank you. Quilterson (talk) 18:42, 26 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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You recently redirected David II of Georgia to David II, but the only viable target on that page is David IV of Georgia - sometimes known as David II (he was listed as David II, but I've fixed that). The only other possible candidate that I can find is David II of Iberia who was a member of the Georgian Bagratid dynasty, but that seems a bit of a stretch. It seems to me that it would be better to revert back to David IV of Georgia - what do you think? Leschnei (talk) 15:17, 11 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I do not think that "David II of Georgia" is a clear title. I think it would be natural to assume that David II of Georgia and David II of Iberia were the same person. In fact, the Historical Dictionary of Georgia has three David IIs and our "David II of Iberia" is described as "king of Georgians". See here. Srnec (talk) 20:34, 11 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I wrote an addition to my original question, but apparently didn't save it properly - after digging some more I found several other people who could be called David II of Georgia. So I agree with you, it is not a clear title, and should redirect to the DAB page. Leschnei (talk) 00:10, 12 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Hello, I am a graduate student studying the Visigoths and Visigothic kingdom pages. I think it is misleading to include the historical myth that the Kingdom of Asturias and specifically Pelagius was the beginning of the 'Reconquista" (which itself it one of those umbrella loaded terms like 'Crusades'). Do you think it is possible to remove these references? Or should I leave them in and add more text about why it is not considered accurate (by current historians) Thanks, Tmarac (talk) 12:52, 9 March 2024 (UTC) User: Tmarac[reply]

@Tmarac: What articles are you referring to exactly? Srnec (talk) 16:09, 9 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Dear Srnec, I am referring to the The Visigoths article:

"A Visigothic nobleman, Pelayo, is credited with beginning the Christian Reconquista of Iberia in 718, when he defeated the Umayyad forces in the Battle of Covadonga and established the Kingdom of Asturias in the northern part of the peninsula."

Roger Collins in The Arab Conquest of Spain page 148

Pelagius did not think he was 'reviving' the Visigothic Kingdom. A Christian bishop was fighting on the side of the Arabs against Pelagius.

And more broadly:

page 198 "counterweight to tendancy to believe that the Arab invasion marks a totally new beginning".

Thanks,

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"is credited with" X certainly doesn't imply that Pelayo had X in mind. I have nevertheless reworded to remove reference to the Reconquista, which is largely out of scope at Visigoths. Srnec (talk) 22:44, 11 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Dear Srnec,

Thank you very much. I appreciate your help.

The Visigothic kingdom article (also) includes this sentence at the end of the first paragraph of the section titled Muslim Conquest:

"The only effective resistance was in Asturias, where a Visigothic nobleman named Pelagius revolted in 718, and defeated the Muslims at the battle of Covadonga; this was the beginning of the Reconquista.[citation needed]"

As I am a newcomer editor I am hesitant to remove the phrase "this was the beginning of the Reconquista", (I would retain the first part of the sentence). Do you think I should go ahead?

Thanks, Terry Tmarac (talk) 01:11, 12 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yes. Worst case, you are reverted and then you have to discuss the change. See WP:BRD. Bold editing is encouraged, but when challenged, discuss. Explaining your edit succinctly in an edit summary helps avoid misunderstanding. Srnec (talk) 02:11, 12 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Dear Srnec,

Thank you. I just read the WP:BRD. I might post my plans in the talk page first. Likely I will go ahead with the edit and will have a edit summary ready.

Thanks, Terry Tmarac (talk) 12:38, 12 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I would highly appreciate your review at Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Raynald of Châtillon/archive1. I am sure you could suggest further changes to improve the article. Thank you for your time. Borsoka (talk) 01:48, 10 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello. I noticed you helped improve some of my edits at Alexander Romance and I appreciate it. I have noticed that the article has a C-class content assessment but I think that after my work on the page this may be able to be elevated. Do you know how I can request a reassessment of the articles content quality? Pogenplain (talk) 06:29, 12 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You can change it yourself by normal editing (strange and/or gauche as that may seem). Myself, I don't care much about article ratings. They are often done in a semi-automated manner and they serve mainly to identify articles needing improvement (I think). There is still a lot of room for improvement at Alexander Romance, but that goes with the territory of such an expansive topic. With your improvements there and over at Clementine literature, you are crossing articles of off my to-do list! Srnec (talk) 22:17, 12 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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You recently reverted the page to an edit you did a back in July 2023 under the pretense of "vandalism" without further explanation. I fail to see what's been vandalised in any of edits after yours. Would you mind explain yourself? Do you simply feel an arbitrary ownership of the article in question? Voy178 (talk) 08:18, 4 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The vandalism was by the now blocked user JR1993, a longtime account abuser. I preserved one of your edits, but not the infobox, which I oppose. We can discuss the infobox on the talk page if you want. Srnec (talk) 20:08, 4 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I'd like to know what's wrong with the infobox. It's very useful and the norm on all featured and good articles. Voy178 (talk) 20:36, 4 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Per MOS:INFOBOXUSE, infoboxes are never required. In this case, it repeats his uncertain birth and death dates from the lead and lists his relatives. It gives his "house" as "Salerno", which is just silly. In my opinion, it adds no value. It does not present information in a convenient way that is superior to prose, as the infoboxes of modern politicians and athletes often do. Srnec (talk) 23:17, 4 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I believe lists are easier to read. It's just an overview. Especially useful when considering the section on his family. The entries into the infobox may change as sources changes. I feel like you just have a bias against infoboxes. Consider Cleopatra. Voy178 (talk) 08:49, 5 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Hello Srnec. I see that when I create some pages you connect it to a Wikidata item. I saw this most recently with the page I made today Babyloniaca (Berossus) just now. Is this connection something I should or can be doing myself? This is a feature I do not know. Thank you. Pogenplain (talk) 00:35, 17 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Pogenplain: You can, but the only way to do it yourself that I know is to check Wikidata to see if the topic exists there already. Eventually a Wikidata page will be created for any new article. At that point, we migh have two different Wikidata items for the same thing and they will need to be merged. (That's also easy to do. There's a merge button on Wikidata.) In this case, I went to see if there was a Babyloniaca dab page at other Wikis. I checked the French first. When I go to https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Babyloniaca, there is no article but it lists Wikidata results at the bottom. That's how I learned there was a Dutch page on Berossus' text. There is probably a better way... but I usually stumble on Wikidata items by roundabout routes like that. Srnec (talk) 01:05, 17 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi,

I notice that you have reverted my edit. May I ask why? Because the information I added has proper citation and as I see it, there's no reason that it has to be reverted. Also you labeled my edit as vandalism? Juleskoundes (talk) 00:33, 29 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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per trouvère "Trouvère (/truːˈvɛər/🔈, French: [tʁuvɛʁ]🔈), sometimes spelled trouveur (/truːˈvɜːr/🔈, French: [tʁuvœʁ]🔈), is the Northern French (langue d'oïl) form of the langue d'oc (Occitan) word trobador, the precursor of the modern French word troubadour. Trouvère refers to poet-composers who were roughly contemporary with and influenced by the trobadors, both composing and performing lyric poetry during the High Middle Ages, but while the trobadors composed and performed in Old Occitan, the trouvères used the northern dialects of France. One of the first known trouvère was Chrétien de Troyes (fl. 1160s–1180s) and the trouvères continued to flourish until about 1300. Some 2130 trouvère poems have survived; of these, at least two-thirds have melodies." etc Mason (talk) 19:11, 16 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This seems to be a dialect specific verision of a troubadour. Please undo you revertsMason (talk) 19:12, 16 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

No. Trouvères are French-language composers, while troubadours are Occitan-language composers. This is how the terms are used in English. The categories are misnamed. I tried to fix it here, but the categorists don't seem to care if our category names are misleading/inscrutable. Srnec (talk) 19:15, 16 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, so it seems like those people should be in the French troubadours category based on the CFD. They're french nationals who are poet composers. What am I missing? Mason (talk) 19:25, 16 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Like at the very least they should be in Category:13th-century French composers and Category:13th-century French poets, instead of Category:13th-century French people. Mason (talk) 19:26, 16 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The word "troubadour" implies the Occitan language, while "trouvère" implies French. Thus, trouvères are not troubadours, since they did not write in Occitan. The modern use of "troubadour" to mean itinerant musical performer does not at all reflect scholarly usage. The term "French troubadour" is almost oxymoronic. Srnec (talk) 19:36, 16 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

There's no need to be so salty about it. Anyway, I've moved them to French composers, as that's a category that reflects their nationality, not their language. Mason (talk) 19:40, 16 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Why deleted my added Barony of Vaud flag 150.116.67.61 (talk) 10:17, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sources? Srnec (talk) 01:32, 13 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi Srnec, I hope this message finds you well. I noticed that my recent edits on the Al-Yunini and Ibn Abi al-Dam articles were reverted, and I wanted to understand the reasons behind this decision. My intention was to improve the articles by adding an infoboxes. I was about to add one to the Al-Kutubi but refrained myself after noticing it.

Could you please provide some insight into why the edits were reverted? I am eager to learn and contribute positively to Wikipedia, and your feedback would be greatly appreciated. Thank you for your time and assistance. Ainty Painty (talk) 07:08, 10 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Inofoboxes are somewhat contentious, at least on certain types of article. See Wikipedia:Disinfoboxes. Generally speaking, I think they are overused. They are never required, per MOS:INFOBOXUSE. They are best when there are details that cannot be easily or efficiently conveyed in prose in the lead. I do not think they add much value to relatively short articles on historical writers. Srnec (talk) 23:52, 10 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Srnec. I was browsing around randomly and saw something i don't understand, which i see you added here: His dates written as "1244×1247 – 29 August 1287" ~ what does 1244x1247 mean? Very possibly it's all over the place, but i don't remember seeing it before, so thought i'd ask; hope you don't mind. Thank you. Happy days, ~ Lindsay^Hello 22:16, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It indicates a range, i.e., "born between 1244 and 1247". Ideally, we'd have the "×" marked the way we mark the "c." and "fl." in, e.g., c. 1245 and fl. 1244–1247, but I'm not tech savvy enough to do it. Srnec (talk) 02:50, 13 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Cool. Thank you so much for the explanation. One of the best things about reading and editing here most days is that i thus learn something most days. I did see that the range was shown that way in the DNB you used as a reference (though didn't understand it there, either). Thanks again, Lindsay 07:28, 13 August 2024 (UTC)

I've added the tooltip ~ surely i'm not the only reader who didn't understand! Happy days, ~ Lindsay^Hello 07:41, 13 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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It is a shame that you did not nominate the article Tomb of Charles III of Navarre and Eleanor of Castile at WP:Did you know. My Charles III nomination caught a lot of attention. Just the mention of King Charles III's tomb would have seen people flocking to the article. Surtsicna (talk) 13:14, 20 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I don't like QPQ. Feels like a chore. Srnec (talk) 13:20, 21 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello @Srnec

Recently i wanted to create an article regrading Siege of Silves (1191) during the Reconquista. Later i discovered that there was an already existing article regarding that but redirected towards Almohad campaign against Portugal (1190–1191). Seeing the history page [21], I've stumbled on AFD of the page which you nominated. It was redirected as it doesn't have more details.

I've created a page on my sandbox that covers details of the siege. Does it achieve notability? Should we reverse the redirect or add the content on Almohad campaign against Portugal (1190–1191)? Let me know what you think.

Here's my sand box User:عبدالرحمن4132/sandbox5. عبدالرحمن4132 (talk) 07:15, 21 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I cannot find State of Islam in Andalusia. Is this an Arabic work? We need better bibliographic data. I think the article is short enough to handle the addition. But if you would prefer to overwrite the redirect, go ahead. Srnec (talk) 13:20, 21 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello @Srnec

Regarding the book yes its an arabic work consisting of multiple volumes from the beginning of Muslim Spain til its fall.

I'll try to check for more sources that could be added. عبدالرحمن4132 (talk) 13:29, 21 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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In the past few months the articles Ramon Berenguer IV of Barcelona, Petronilla of Aragon, Alfonso II of Aragon, and Count of Barcelona have been edited to show Petronilla as the countess of Barcelona from 1162 to 1164 in succession to Ramon Berenguer instead of Alfonso. Is this correct? Surtsicna (talk) 08:11, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Off the top of my head, I would not think so. I would think that Alfonso succeeded his father. This article seems to say as much. That doesn't mean that Petronilla did not continue to style herself Countess of Barcelona at least until 1164 (see here, but not in 1173). She may have been regent of Barcelona in some sense in 1162–1164. I have read the Stalls paper cited in the Petronilla article, but if I have a digital copy it is on a harddrive I do not currently have access to. I can only see snippets on Google Books. This says that she had no authority outside of Aragon proper. She certainly did not cede Barcelona to Alfonso in 1164 (see here). I think these changes should be reverted. Srnec (talk) 21:53, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @Srnec: How goes it? I saw your merge. Are you not supposed to do a mergeto and mergefrom on both articles and kick the discussion of why you want a merge? Anyway, there seems to two siege articles Siege of Silves (1190) and Siege of Silves (1191), so probably not worth since there is a lot of details in them. I left a comment. scope_creep^Talk 09:05, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You reverted my minor typographical improvement to the article.

Just FYI and to explain my edit: as you probably know, straight apostrophes (' U+0027) are ambiguous when it comes to transliterating ʿayn and hamza. I saw there was already a full transliteration, and I just thought it might help readers to see also in the initial boldface transliteration that the characters referred to are ʿayn; hence my use of U+2018 ‘. No one is criticizing or overlooking the existing transliteration. I was just discreetly improving what is already a good stub. We can help each other generously in Wikipedia. Cheers. Desde la Torre (talk) 10:15, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

See MOS:ARABIC. For myself, I'm happy to ditch basic transliteration in the article body and just use strict transliteration throughout, but this is not what most editors want. (It is what I do in articles I write from scratch, but the MOS does not fully support it.) In basic transliteration, ayn and hamza are not distinguished. Srnec (talk) 14:32, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello! I'm EmilySarah99. Your recent edit(s) to the page Eleanor of Aquitaine appear to have added incorrect information, so they have been reverted for now. If you believe the information you added was correct, please cite a reliable source or discuss your change on the article's talk page. If you would like to experiment, please use your sandbox. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Please see Style of the French sovereign before making further edits on the topic. EmilySarah99 (talk) 08:17, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

No, "Queen of France" is the normal term in English, regardless of the Latin, just as we do not insist on "King of the English" just because of the Latin rex Anglorum. Or how we use "Holy Roman Emperor" when no such title was ever used. Srnec (talk) 20:40, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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I'm puzzled as to why you removed the infobox I created for Bernardo Bembo. His page is listed under "pages that need infoboxes," and I had provided a comprehensive one. Could you explain why it was reverted back to its previous state? MeirKovner (talk) 19:03, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It was not comprehensive. The article mentions several other ambassadorships and podesterie that were not included. Overall, I don't think an infobox is needed for this article. Srnec (talk) 01:00, 10 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This isn’t a hill I’m willing to die on, but I do want to point out my perspective on your reasoning. Why not simply add the missing offices instead of deleting the entire infobox? While you may personally feel an infobox isn’t necessary, the article has been manually placed in the “needs an infobox” category. Don’t you think it was added to that page for a reason? I understand you’ve been editing this article for years, and are emotionally invested in it. Would you be willing to add the offices that weren’t originally included rather than reverting all the work?? Best regards. MeirKovner (talk) 15:08, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I think it was added to that category for no other reason than it was lacking an infobox and some users feel that every article should have one. I do not think that adding all his offices to an infobox or determining which of his offices deserve inclusion in an infobox is a great use of time or article space. Why do you think the article benefits from an infobox rather than, say, an expanded lead (which I am willing to do)? Srnec (talk) 20:45, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi - What a great article. I copied the pics to Commons, hope you don't mind. They could use some categorization there if you can let me know what to put. Also, this article reminded me of something I saw once but I can't seem to find. It was another French, Spanish or Italian manuscript writer possibly named Moses, possibly a poet or a botano-medical writer, with some kind of illustrated or illuminated manuscript showing leaves, like of a tree not a folio. Any idea what I'm thinking of? I searched through hundreds of articles but I can't seem to find it. I was thinking one of their works was something to do with Love or Heart but that lead me to ibn Pakuda which wasn't right. Andre🚐 20:13, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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