Talk:Alvin Clark (schooner)

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A fact from Alvin Clark (schooner) appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 9 June 2020 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows: Did you know... that after lying on the seafloor for nearly 100 years, the schooner Alvin Clark was noted as "the finest preserved historic vessel in the United States"? A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2020/June. The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Alvin Clark (schooner).

This review is transcluded from Talk:Alvin Clark (schooner)/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: The Rambling Man (talk · contribs) 15:01, 23 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Comments

• Move those refs out of the lead and put them in the main part of the article where you've expanded upon everything you've said in the lead.
• Infobox has "{{{DESIGNATED_OTHER1_ABBR}}}" which clearly needs addressing.
• Infobox mentions "Square stern" but this isn't mentioned anywhere in the article.
• "foot of Sixth Avenue. " is mentioned in the lead and infobox but not the article.
• Ref 1 doesn't appear to provide any sourcing information, it's just a link to a search engine.
• " in Menominee, Michigan at t" comma after Michigan.
• "rigged as a brigantine with a square rigged" any chance of avoiding that repetition?
• " in Trenton, Michigan[7] in" comma after Michigan.
• "1847,[5][3]" ref order.
• "the ship for shipping" repetitive.
• "it was it sold in 1852.[8] The second owner of the ship was" before he sold it in 1852 to ... i.e. merge sentences and make it active (he sold) rather than passive (it was sold).
• I'm not an expert and I note Great Lakes is mentioned in the lead but nowhere else, no lakes are name-checked and this assumes our readers are familiar with the geography. And I'm not...
• " to Oconto, Wisconsin to " comma after Wisconsin.
• Consider linking technical terms like "hold", "hatch", "mate", "salvage rights", "slip" etc.
• "Alvin Clark[11]," ref after comma.
• " recovering artifacts[5] " move ref to end of sentence.
• "drunk" perhaps "inebriated" for encyclopedic tone.
• AVOID SHOUTING in ref titles.
• "deemed beyond saving, and it was deemed" deemed x 2.
• "p. 220-21" should be "pp. 220–21".
• "Anchor - Wisconsin " should be en-dash, not hyphen.

That's all I have for now, so it's on hold. The Rambling Man (Stay indoors, stay safe!!!!) 11:28, 24 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

All issues are fixed. Lettler (talk) 15:33, 24 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Promoted. The Rambling Man (Stay indoors, stay safe!!!!) 15:54, 24 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by The Squirrel Conspiracy (talk) 22:54, 5 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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The Alvin Clark in 1978

• ... that the schooner Alvin Clark (pictured), which sank in Green Bay in 1864, was successfully raised in 1969? Source: Wisconsin Shipwrecks
  • ALT1:... that the schooner Alvin Clark (pictured) was called "the finest preserved historic vessel in the United States?" Source: Schooner Passage: Sailing Ships and the Lake Michigan Frontier p. 219

Created by Andrew Jameson. Expanded to GA status by Lettler (talk). Nominated by Lettler at 16:14, 24 April 2020 (UTC).[reply]

• Article length and age (just passed GA today) are fine, no copyvio or plagiarism concerns, reliable sources are used. I have a slight preference for ALT1. --TheSandDoctor ^Talk 23:31, 24 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment I agree, ALT1 works better. Lettler (talk) 00:50, 27 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Hi, I came by to promote this. I don't understand why ALT1 works for you; it is completely out of context. Would you consider combining the two hooks in some way, like:
• ALT2: ... that after lying on the seafloor for nearly 100 years, the schooner Alvin Clark (pictured) was noted as "the finest preserved historic vessel in the United States"? Yoninah (talk) 01:36, 2 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• @Yoninah: I found ALT1 more interesting than alt0. However, do agree that alt2 is better. --TheSandDoctor ^Talk 03:08, 2 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• @Yoninah: I agree as well. Thank you for the suggestion; it's my first DYK nomination. Lettler^hello 03:23, 2 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• @TheSandDoctor: could you give a tick to ALT2 please? Yoninah (talk) 16:33, 3 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• @Yoninah: ALT2 --TheSandDoctor ^Talk 05:26, 4 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]